Video Request: SMU/UConn (ESPN2)

Raymond

Since we are talking about travels:

12:50 of the 2nd half, is this a travel?

If someone can pull this up, thanks.

JRutledge

BadNewsRef wrote
Since we are talking about travels:

12:50 of the 2nd half, is this a travel?

If someone can pull this up, thanks.

Peace

DrPete

#44 was in the way from that camera angle, but he signaled a travel so it must be! It was hard to see if the dribbler's right foot shuffled before he picked up his left foot and started a dribble.

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BigCat

BadNewsRef wrote
Since we are talking about travels:

12:50 of the 2nd half, is this a travel?

If someone can pull this up, thanks.

Yes. Travel. Left foot becomes the pivot and he lifts it before releasing ball on dribble.

just another ref

If you want to see one that wasn't called, check out Ingram for Duke, 15:45 of the first half in the NC game.

jpgc99

BigCat wrote
Yes. Travel. Left foot becomes the pivot and he lifts it before releasing ball on dribble.

Agree. But it's tight.

JRutledge

just another ref wrote
If you want to see one that wasn't called, check out Ingram for Duke, 15:45 of the first half in the NC game.

OK and your point is what?

Peace

#olderthanilook

Yep. Left foot is pivot. A1 lifts it from the floor before releasing ball for dribble. Not sure if the calling official can see the status of the ball, though. He must have since he made the call.

Raymond

I found the play interesting b/c it's still not clear to me if he traveled, but on the very next play down the court a UConn player obviously traveled (IMO) on a jump stop and scored with no call.

And the RA rule was put into place specifically for this type of play, where a secondary is only trying to get in the way near the basket, but is not playing any real defense.

just another ref

JRutledge wrote
OK and your point is what?

Peace

We were discussing travels which some of us feel are obvious, but are not called. This is an example of one, if you care to post it.

JRutledge

BadNewsRef wrote
I found the play interesting b/c it's still not clear to me if he traveled, but on the very next play down the court a UConn player obviously traveled (IMO) on a jump stop and scored with no call.

Is this the play?

Peace

Raymond

BigCat wrote
Yes. Travel. Left foot becomes the pivot and he lifts it before releasing ball on dribble.

To me he lifts his left foot simultaneous with releasing the ball for the dribble, but I can understand the call. I wouldn't really question it much except for the following play that is a clear travel that leads to a basket but is not called.

Thanks for pulling up the plays Jeff.

BigCat

BadNewsRef wrote
To me he lifts his left foot simultaneous with releasing the ball for the dribble, but I can understand the call. I wouldn't really question it much except for the following play that is a clear travel that leads to a basket but is not called.

Thanks for pulling up the plays Jeff.

Yep, therein lies the problem. Doesn't do the game any good if only one guy is calling travel.

so cal lurker

BigCat wrote
Yep, therein lies the problem. Doesn't do the game any good if only one guy is calling travel.

Watching JV games this year, this was my biggest gripe: two officials calling a different game -- whether travels, carries, three seconds or post contact. Very hard for players to adjust to that. (To be fair, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the refs in most games.)

Bad Zebra

That one seems pretty darn close to me. It was so close to me that I'd be apt to let that one go (full disclosure, I'm a UConn fan but I can see why SMU would hate this one). I'm not convinced the left foot was actually the pivot foot OR that the calling official had a good view of his left foot.

Bad Zebra

JRutledge wrote
Is this the play?

Peace

Wow. That's a travel.

SNIPERBBB

Bad Zebra wrote
That one seems pretty darn close to me. It was so close to me that I'd be apt to let that one go (full disclosure, I'm a UConn fan but I can see why SMU would hate this one). I'm not convinced the left foot was actually the pivot foot OR that the calling official had a good view of his left foot.

The player lifts his left foot but it goes back down before he receives the ball, so it is the pivot.

BigCat

SNIPERBBB wrote
The player lifts his left foot but it goes back down before he receives the ball, so it is the pivot.

If you are talking about the first video--the player catches the ball, then lifts the right leg making the left the pivot. I believe he lifts the left foot/pivot before releasing ball on dribble.