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Duke @ North Carolina 4 Plays (Video--added a play)
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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/h-pbcUiYYYE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Play #2: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MP1pJj-t75w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Play #3: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/odVVpx_DIco" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Play #4: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/dyWdBUZxJAw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Peace |
1. In the RA. Correct call
2. Acquired LGP and maintained it. Correct call 3. Hits his arm. Correct call Looks like some good officiating by some good officials |
I agree with all three calls
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The 2nd was really close...the defender had LGP very early but then moved toward the offensive player a little before contact and was still coming forward at contact. Technically, that makes it a block. It wasn't much, but it was there.
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I like all 4 calls.
The interesting question is in #1 what most people have if the RA wasn't in play. |
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Charge, unless B1's heel(s) are in the restricted area, which is inconclusive from the video, imo. |
1. PC (NFHS); Block (NCAA)
2. PC 3. Travel on spin...initial pivot is right foot, picks up, puts down |
1) Block
2) PC 3) No travel and no foul 4) Illegal jump stop (that no one is going to call) and a foul |
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1. traveled twice on initial possession/take off. skipped with right foot (pivot foot), then lifted pivot foot before dribbling. then I have a block with the defender coming forward.
2. looks like an easy PC 3. left foot is pivot so no travel, got him on the arm. 4. jump stop is barely illegal on slow mo, but not calling it live, got him on the arm. |
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This is a travel I've been trying to better identify this season. |
All good calls. I don't see an illegal jump stop on the last one, it looks good.
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I'm going to comment without looking at anyone else's comments.
#1- good call on it being RA block. Although, I did agree with Bilas last night (don't shoot me) that it could have been a no call, not really that much contact. 2-flop. Thought so last night and still do today. 3-there was contact on arm/wrist but I could see a no call 4-I would have a foul as well. I would have rather seen Grayson give the ball to Luke trailing for an easy layup but that is my fandom talking. |
Overall, I thought the game was officiated very well. For those of you who watched, would anyone have had a T on Brice Johnson for hanging on rim on his first two dunks? One rebound and one putback? My thought was in nfhs it would have been T both times but college gets a little more leeway. Thoughts?
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I knew lots would think that and at least someone would say it but I really don't think there was enough contact to have a foul either way. I like to think that I would believe that if the teams were reversed as well. [emoji3] |
Real time I like all 4 calls!
Slowed down...the only call i would change is #1 as defender gains LGP a half of a tick before A1 leaves the floor. High school that is a charge. (I don't speak on college or NBA. Ha.) |
#1 RA Block (NCAA) NFHS PC
#2 PC #3 Foul #4 Foul (in slow mo, looks like travel for feet not landing simultaneously but real time, no travel, foul) |
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What's the fascination with travel calls? Out of all the hero calls a hero travel call is the rarest of them all, and usually involves a clear cut travel (like a switch of the pivot foot while a player keeps pivoting). I used to call a lot of travels but after watching guys that were in positions that I wanted to be in NOT call as many I noticed a pattern. In talking with them and from instruction I have come to accept that picking NITS with travels is not what is expected, nor does it make one a great official. This rule is not 100% but it does cover 98-99% of real time application for me. I make sure I get the ones that Ray Charles in the last row would call. I try my best to call the ones that give a clear advantage to the offensive player and ARE obvious, and the rest I'm ok missing. Because I bet that we get more travels called incorrect than we do when we don't put air in the whistle. By the letter of the law I'm sure our HS or even college games have way more travels that go uncalled but I just don't focus as much on those calls as I do with everything else I have to. I stick to calling the obvious and if I have to justify my call with a "well he picked up his dribble a hair before he lifted his XYZ foot off the ground and then a lace of his pivot returned to the ground so I have a travel" I'm focusing on all the wrong things. Simultaneous - eh close enough. I can also tell you that the more athletic the players the tougher it is to pick up their pivot foot as they are so darn quick. For the love of me I don't want to take a possession away from a team on a borderline guess or 50/50 call. |
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Very well stated....It is obvious that you are attending camps and people are teaching you not only how to officiate this play but how to keep yourself out of trouble in the process. There are enough people in the avocation that will call a travel on this play....it is because of them that you will have "job security" for a long time !!!! |
Love the fact that the C hustled his butt down the court and was able to get the call on that last play!
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I didn't need slow motion to tell Grayson's jump stop was improper, but I also acknowledged that no one is calling this one a travel, including myself. |
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Agree. |
Jump stops aside, can someone please explain why play #3 isn't a travel before the foul?
I realize that slow motion isn't great since officials have to make the calls in real time, but the camera angle is blocked from seeing everything clearly. Agreeing with griblets, If you stop the video at 25 sec mark, ball is in both hands, right foot is pivot foot. He then proceeds to put down the left, lift the right and then puts it down again after the spin move. Travel? Since the foul happened after the travel then the contact on the shot shouldn't matter. Yes? |
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It probably was a travel but in real time I wouldn't catch that. The decision for when the player has gathered to which foot is the pivot is at times impossible and we miss the real first pivot foot. It's just a fact, especially with D1 athletes as they move so quick. If you need to stop the video to see the travel then it's best that you just don't call the travel. |
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I have never been chastised for letting these types of "travel" calls go. I have been chastised for (1) making them and (2) passing on contact fouls that hinder freedom of movement. IOW NO ONE cares about missed borderline travel calls past a freshman level game. Just make sure you call the ones that need to be called. |
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Peace |
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