NC v Louisville
 

I'd like to see the play just prior to the FT at 5:15 left in game. Foul in paint on a lob to Louisville big man. basket was counted. Thought foul was before shooter caught the pass. Wanted to see again. Thx

Here is the play.
 

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Peace

Thx. It looks like counting basket was right. I wasn't sure when I watched it earlier if the foul occurred when he had ball..or close enough. Thx again

The holding foul is CLEARLY before the player catches the pass. This goal should not have counted by rule.

Yes they counted the basket and gave him 1 free throw.

Peace

That's what I thought originally and why I asked to bring play up. I just can't tell if the defender's right arm is still in there when catch made. I've had this happen a few times and had to explain that the ball is dead when the foul occurs prior to the catch. Not a shooting foul.

He didn't call the hold, he called the midair bump after the gather. :cool:

Did you see his signal? I didn't.

Can you watch it 10 more seconds and see if you see a signal? I thought he was reporting in the background.

They aren't going to split hairs to deny a shooting foul, and neither am I.

Yes. I shouldn't either...

No indication in the broadcast what he reported. I went back and looked for you.

And I also believe I am giving the player everything he can get and that would be the basket and the foul. Contact did start before he touches the ball, but what was he trying to ultimately do? Shoot. I am giving that to him or not taking it away because part of the contact started before he touches the pass.

Peace

This last part is not relevant is wrong by rule. Attempting to justify an incorrect call with some made-up rationale doesn't accomplish anything.

Just follow the rule.

Thx for looking.

I am not trying to justify anything. The issue is when does the official have a foul. He might not feel there really is a foul until it is clear he is shooting. Now if you rule a foul before, then you cannot justify a shot in this case as at the very least you have to have touched the ball to start your motion. But when the offensive player is kind of undercut and that is not clear until the shooting motion, I am giving the shots. I am going to penalize the defense as much as I can in those case when everything is happening that fast.

This is not about the rule, it is about judgment. Judgment allows a lot of people to wait until you see the result of everything before you blow your whistle. If you disagree, that is fine. I am just thinking it is good officiating to wait. I have no issues with the call.

Peace