Oh wise ones of the court...

[UNIgiantslayers]

If they were booing or protesting the call and she did that, I agree. Either way, you drew a line in the sand with both situations, they both crossed and you whacked. I have no issue with it, and I would have whacked him with his second "let the players decide" comment after you told him "we are finished discussing it," with serious consideration for just serving him after the first comment questioning your integrity. You don't owe that coach anything, I'd say let your association deal with it.

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

If they were booing or protesting the call and she did that, I agree. Either way, you drew a line in the sand with both situations, they both crossed and you whacked. I have no issue with it, and I would have whacked him with his second "let the players decide" comment after you told him "we are finished discussing it," with serious consideration for just serving him after the first comment questioning your integrity. You don't owe that coach anything, I'd say let your association deal with it.

Good point that I left out of the OP. The visiting team fans were voicing their displeasure with the initial call...in all the usual ways (booing and comments).

She was using both hands (palms up) and gesturing similar to a football player trying to quite the crowd. If she had not looked me square in the eyes when she did it the second time I probably would have passed thinking she neither saw me or heard the warning. Since we had made eye contact and she kept the contact during the second episode I felt she earned the T.

Originally Posted by BatteryPowered

Good point that I left out of the OP. The visiting team fans were voicing their displeasure with the initial call...in all the usual ways (booing and comments).

She was using both hands (palms up) and gesturing similar to a football player trying to quite the crowd. If she had not looked me square in the eyes when she did it the second time I probably would have passed thinking she neither saw me or heard the warning. Since we had made eye contact and she kept the contact during the second episode I felt she earned the T.

Huh? If you are trying to pump up the crowd you typically have your palms up. If you are trying to quiet the crowd you have your palms down. Which was she trying to do?

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Originally Posted by AremRed

Huh? If you are trying to pump up the crowd you typically have your palms up. If you are trying to quiet the crowd you have your palms down. Which was she trying to do?

I said she had her palms up...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BatteryPowered

Good point that I left out of the OP. The visiting team fans were voicing their displeasure with the initial call...in all the usual ways (booing and comments).

She was using both hands (palms up) and gesturing similar to a football player trying to quite the crowd. If she had not looked me square in the eyes when she did it the second time I probably would have passed thinking she neither saw me or heard the warning. Since we had made eye contact and she kept the contact during the second episode I felt she earned the T.

With this new info, that it was done in disrespect over a call, I reverse my earlier opinion. Good T.

Originally Posted by BatteryPowered

I said she had her palms up...

Yeah but you also said she was "gesturing similar to a football player trying to quiet the crowd".

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Yeah but you also said she was "gesturing similar to a football player trying to quiet the crowd".

OK...try this description.

She was waving her arms up and down, holding her hands palm up.

I just used the "similar" reference to keep from typing she was flapping her arms like a stupid bird.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BatteryPowered

OK...try this description.

She was waving her arms up and down, holding her hands palm up.

I just used the "similar" reference to keep from typing she was flapping her arms like a stupid bird.

I wouldn't have had any questions had you said she "was flapping her arms like a stupid bird." And that phrase makes me laugh

[BillyMac]

10-3: A player shall not:
ART. 6 Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts
or conduct such as:
a. Disrespectfully addressing or contacting an official or gesturing in such a
manner as to indicate resentment.

10-4: The head coach is responsible for his/her own conduct and behavior, as well as
substitutes, disqualified team members and all other bench personnel. Bench
personnel, including the head coach, shall not:
ART. 1 Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts
or conduct such as:
e. Objecting to an official’s decision by rising from the bench or using
gestures.
f. Inciting undesirable crowd reactions.

[Smitty]

I think the coaches for the schools in our chapter know enough to contact the assignor first with issues - not sure how yours handles these things. Does your assignor know what happened yet? I would have been on the phone as soon as the game was over getting my side of it to him first. Whenever something happens in a game that the assignor will likely get a phone call for, we are instructed to try and get to the assignor first.

[#olderthanilook]

I've given a few, low key warnings so far this year to HC's because their bench decorum was less than stellar - mainly questioning foul calls, no calls or crying for violations. The warnings were enough in each situation. However, I administered an indirect TF to a HC last week for an unacceptable comment made by the ass. coach directed at my partner as I ran by their bench in transition. It was the first thing I heard the ass. coach say all game. And, it was enough for me to give him what he earned w/o any warning to the HC.