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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 03:54pm
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I've given a few, low key warnings so far this year to HC's because their bench decorum was less than stellar - mainly questioning foul calls, no calls or crying for violations. The warnings were enough in each situation. However, I administered an indirect TF to a HC last week for an unacceptable comment made by the ass. coach directed at my partner as I ran by their bench in transition. It was the first thing I heard the ass. coach say all game. And, it was enough for me to give him what he earned w/o any warning to the HC.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 05:09pm
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Good point that I left out of the OP. The visiting team fans were voicing their displeasure with the initial call...in all the usual ways (booing and comments).

She was using both hands (palms up) and gesturing similar to a football player trying to quite the crowd. If she had not looked me square in the eyes when she did it the second time I probably would have passed thinking she neither saw me or heard the warning. Since we had made eye contact and she kept the contact during the second episode I felt she earned the T.
Huh? If you are trying to pump up the crowd you typically have your palms up. If you are trying to quiet the crowd you have your palms down. Which was she trying to do?
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 05:12pm
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Huh? If you are trying to pump up the crowd you typically have your palms up. If you are trying to quiet the crowd you have your palms down. Which was she trying to do?
I said she had her palms up...
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 05:20pm
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Good point that I left out of the OP. The visiting team fans were voicing their displeasure with the initial call...in all the usual ways (booing and comments).

She was using both hands (palms up) and gesturing similar to a football player trying to quite the crowd. If she had not looked me square in the eyes when she did it the second time I probably would have passed thinking she neither saw me or heard the warning. Since we had made eye contact and she kept the contact during the second episode I felt she earned the T.
With this new info, that it was done in disrespect over a call, I reverse my earlier opinion. Good T.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 05:21pm
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I said she had her palms up...
Yeah but you also said she was "gesturing similar to a football player trying to quiet the crowd".
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 05:31pm
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Yeah but you also said she was "gesturing similar to a football player trying to quiet the crowd".
OK...try this description.

She was waving her arms up and down, holding her hands palm up.

I just used the "similar" reference to keep from typing she was flapping her arms like a stupid bird.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 05:37pm
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OK...try this description.

She was waving her arms up and down, holding her hands palm up.

I just used the "similar" reference to keep from typing she was flapping her arms like a stupid bird.
I wouldn't have had any questions had you said she "was flapping her arms like a stupid bird." And that phrase makes me laugh
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 05:38pm
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Let's Go To The Videotape ...

10-3: A player shall not:
ART. 6 Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts
or conduct such as:
a. Disrespectfully addressing or contacting an official or gesturing in such a
manner as to indicate resentment.

10-4: The head coach is responsible for his/her own conduct and behavior, as well as
substitutes, disqualified team members and all other bench personnel. Bench
personnel, including the head coach, shall not:
ART. 1 Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts
or conduct such as:
e. Objecting to an official’s decision by rising from the bench or using
gestures.
f. Inciting undesirable crowd reactions.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 05:41pm
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10-3: A player shall not:
ART. 6 Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts
or conduct such as:
a. Disrespectfully addressing or contacting an official or gesturing in such a
manner as to indicate resentment.

10-4: The head coach is responsible for his/her own conduct and behavior, as well as
substitutes, disqualified team members and all other bench personnel. Bench
personnel, including the head coach, shall not:
ART. 1 Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts
or conduct such as:
e. Objecting to an official’s decision by rising from the bench or using
gestures.
f. Inciting undesirable crowd reactions.
G. Flapping arms like a stupid bird.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 05:43pm
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G. Flapping arms like a stupid bird.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 07:39pm
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G. Flapping arms like a stupid bird.
This thread is amazing.

(Also: I'm reminded sharply of one of football trainers, yelling at the rookies while doing signals practice - we all learn to be Rs in 2nd year for little league games - "Unsportsmanlike conduct has steady arms. You're not ****ing birds.")
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 10:31pm
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I would immediately inform the assigner and his AD. He has no business even having your phone number, IMO.



And you're right, he knows why they were called.

We got an email from booking agent last month with these exact instructions and reminder that contact with coach for this type of reason is both unprofessional and expressly forbidden by our assn. do not return that call. Let your assn handle it. That coach knows better.
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