Vid Request- Miami vs Duke

[VaTerp]

Can someone please post the video of the foul occuring at the 2:14 mark of the 2nd half.

The foul was called a non-shooting foul but its a bucket that I'm scoring 10 times out of 10.

Curious as to others thoughts.

[JeffM]

I believe Dickie V said that it would have been continuation in the NBA, but not in college because he hadn't released the ball yet. I know he mis-spoke.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JeffM

I believe Dickie V said that it would have been continuation in the NBA, but not in college because he hadn't released the ball yet. I know he mis-spoke.

I doubt it.

But the only saving grace is that the player might not have been in the "upward motion" which was the philosophy for the last few years.

Peace

[ballgame99]

I would also be interested in this one since this is a topic I find interesting to get opinions on. Coaches have complained that I'm too liberal about what is a shooting foul vs "on the floor", but IMO many of my partners are the opposite.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I would also be interested in this one since this is a topic I find interesting to get opinions on. Coaches have complained that I'm too liberal about what is a shooting foul vs "on the floor", but IMO many of my partners are the opposite.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by Dad

Their words, not mine. Hence the quotes.

[JetMetFan]

Here's the play...

[Nevadaref]

Poor decision. That's in the act of shooting and continuous motion should have applied.

[BlueDevilRef]

I'll agree with those first three but what is wrong with dipped his shoulder or moving his feet? Need some context as to when you hear them used and what you would say instead.

[deecee]

There is definite contact on the shot but not enough that would rise to the level of a foul. Don't see how this is a non shooting foul.

On the floor is the only acceptable phrase we can use. It conveys information that the foul was not in the act of shooting and that the foul was "on the floor" not "at the rim".

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by deecee

There is definite contact on the shot but not enough that would rise to the level of a foul. Don't see how this is a non shooting foul.

On the floor is the only acceptable phrase we can use. It conveys information that the foul was not in the act of shooting and that the foul was "on the floor" not "at the rim".

It perpetuates the myth that only an player who is in the air can be in the act of shooting.

Use "before the shot" or "before the try."

(And, I think the CCA manual for NCAAW still includes the phrase "on the floor." Maybe I'll make a mechanics suggestion for next year.)

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by deecee

There is definite contact on the shot but not enough that would rise to the level of a foul. Don't see how this is a non shooting foul.

On the floor is the only acceptable phrase we can use. It conveys information that the foul was not in the act of shooting and that the foul was "on the floor" not "at the rim".

I thought the foul was on Blue 13. What did the floor do wrong?

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I thought the foul was on Blue 13. What did the floor do wrong?

I'm really glad I swallowed my coffee before I read that . . . and now I'm gonna think about that every time I hear a ref say that . . .

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I thought the foul was on Blue 13. What did the floor do wrong?

The foul was "against" or "committed by" blue 13.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The foul was "against" or "committed by" blue 13.

I personally find "against" to be ambiguous. It could mean the fouler "the foul was charged against the fouler." or the offended player "the foul was made against the offended player."