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UNIgiantslayers Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:55pm

Ejected the first of my career tonight
 
H coach is upset because he's not getting the calls he wants. His team is playing sloppy defense, other team is not. His girl goes barreling down the lane creating contact with a defender who is vertical. Loses the ball, no call. Next trip down, V1 gets hacked down low and I call the foul. I report it and he starts chirping. We're on his home court, do I realize that, it's about time for them to start getting calls. Okay coach, I hear you, enough. "Jesus Christ." Whack. "Good. Thank you." Partner tells him to buckle up. As I'm coming by next time he says "Now maybe you all can start calling the game." Whack. "Hit the road, coach." He says "I hope you're proud of yourself." I've had this guy 4 times this season and whacked him a couple times and he's just a whiny a**hole. He just doesn't get it. This was justified, right? I've never ejected a coach and I don't feel the least bit bad about this one like I always thought I would if I ever ran a guy.

crosscountry55 Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:55pm

Yes. Ideally it's nice if a partner can call the 2nd T, but in your case...very next trip down, and knowing his history…yeah I think you were plenty justified.

You can't fix stupid. But you can eject it.


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Adam Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:57am

Good call on both Ts. I might have stuck him when he said he should get calls because it was his home court.

jpgc99 Sat Jan 23, 2016 01:32am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 977677)
Good call on both Ts. I might have stuck him when he said he should get calls because it was his home court.

I absolutely would have stuck him there.

bainsey Sat Jan 23, 2016 08:15am

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Originally Posted by jpgc99 (Post 977681)
I absolutely would have stuck him there.

Ditto. That sense of entitlement can only be damaging.

UNIgiantslayers Sat Jan 23, 2016 09:05am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 977677)
Good call on both Ts. I might have stuck him when he said he should get calls because it was his home court.

I regret not getting him there but I let him say his piece, and gave him clear instructions that I had had enough. You all are right though, I gave him too much rope there.

Hugh Refner Sat Jan 23, 2016 01:28pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 977677)
I might have stuck him when he said he should get calls because it was his home court.

I would have taken a rule book over to him and asked him to show me where it says that. Then I would have whacked him - on the head with the book. :D

bob jenkins Sat Jan 23, 2016 01:35pm

I don't think the original comment necessarily rose to the level of a T, and you did address it -- but I'd address this specific comment with more than a "I hear you"

UNIgiantslayers Sat Jan 23, 2016 01:46pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 977731)
I don't think the original comment necessarily rose to the level of a T, and you did address it -- but I'd address this specific comment with more than a "I hear you"

Any suggestions?

bob jenkins Sat Jan 23, 2016 09:43pm

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Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers (Post 977737)
Any suggestions?

Tonight a coach said, "I don't think you guys are doing us any favors this half."

My response, "It's our job to do not do favors for either team, either half."

You could also use the more pointed, "What's are you trying to imply, coach?"

Or, the very direct, "Coach, I'll be glad to answer a reasonable question about what I saw on that play. But-DO-NOT-EVER accuse me of cheating."

I've used all of the above.

SE Minnestoa Re Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:18am

I sometimes just bluntly ask them if they are accusing me of cheating. They always respond sheepishly "no, no, I don't mean that".

It generally solves the issue.

My other favorite that I have never used but one of my buddies likes is "It is the coaching box, not the refereeing box"

Raymond Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:22am

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Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re (Post 977963)
I sometimes just bluntly ask them if they are accusing me of cheating. They always respond sheepishly "no, no, I don't mean that".

It generally solves the issue.

My other favorite that I have never used but one of my buddies likes is "It is the coaching box, not the refereeing box"

I've told coaches not to question my integrity. That always gets a reaction from them. They are soooo offended that I would accuse them of that.

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OKREF Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:59am

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Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re (Post 977963)
I sometimes just bluntly ask them if they are accusing me of cheating. They always respond sheepishly "no, no, I don't mean that".

I've done this before. "Coach are you saying you're getting cheated". His answer will always decide what I do next.

UNIgiantslayers Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 977975)
I've done this before. "Coach are you saying you're getting cheated". His answer will always decide what I do next.

I like that. It puts the ball back in their court.

Dad Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:59pm

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Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers (Post 977978)
I like that. It puts the ball back in their court.

Good stuff, but remember every so often coaches just want to leave the gym no matter what you say.

Pantherdreams Mon Jan 25, 2016 01:21pm

I once had a partner inform the coach that he "should worry about coaching, and I'll worrying about officiating."

The coach was down big in the first half and told my partner "based on how we're both doing tonight its probably a better game if we switched."

No T and I don' t think we could have called anything for the next 2-3 possessions we were laughing so hard.


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