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SCalScoreKeeper Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:49pm

Flagrant 1,Flagrant 2,Common? NCAAW
 
Great use of the monitor in the Missouri @ Arkansas Women's game at 3:11 to go in the 3rd quarter.Any thoughts on the call? Can any of our video gurus post the play from WatchESPN?

JetMetFan Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:28am

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 976946)
Great use of the monitor in the Missouri @ Arkansas Women's game at 3:11 to go in the 3rd quarter.Any thoughts on the call? Can any of our video gurus post the play from WatchESPN?

If no one else can get it, I'll post once I get home in the AM. Watching it now (12:27A EST) at full-speed for the first time my initial thought is F2. I had the sound down so I didn't realize the ball was dead so I'll amend that to F2T.

AremRed Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:38am

F2 for me.

JetMetFan Mon Jan 18, 2016 03:02pm

Here's the play...


<iframe width="960" height="720" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KFLhf-4WW7w?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SC Official Mon Jan 18, 2016 04:00pm

They ruled a held ball and then a contact dead ball T.

Without the benefit of replay, I doubt I would have ruled the ball dead and probably gone with a flagrant personal (NFHS) or flagrant 2 personal (NCAA).

Dad Mon Jan 18, 2016 04:21pm

F2

Seeya~

JetMetFan Mon Jan 18, 2016 04:26pm

Looking at all the replays - which is basically what the crew saw - I can understand why they went CDBT, which is essentially an F1 technical. Missouri #22 didn't wind up to hit Arkansas #33 and there wasn't a heck of a lot of follow through. In other words, it may not be as severe/extreme as it appeared on first glance.

Adam Mon Jan 18, 2016 04:34pm

She hit her in the face, intentionally. With or without windup or follow through, I'm hard pressed to see this as anything other than a fight.

Raymond Mon Jan 18, 2016 04:34pm

Get the push on black on the initial rebounding action

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Adam Mon Jan 18, 2016 04:35pm

And am I the only one who sees a rebound foul on B5 before all of this, or is that not something that gets called at this level?

Adam Mon Jan 18, 2016 04:35pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 977067)
Get the push on black on the initial rebounding action

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 977068)
And am I the only one who sees a rebound foul on B5 before all of this, or is that not something that gets called at this level?

I guess not. Thanks BNR.

BigCat Mon Jan 18, 2016 04:57pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 977068)
And am I the only one who sees a rebound foul on B5 before all of this, or is that not something that gets called at this level?

That should be a foul at every level....and thats an ejection for me also.

Welpe Mon Jan 18, 2016 04:59pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 977067)
Get the push on black on the initial rebounding action

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First thing I noticed as well. And I can't see how that's not a Flagrant 2. Deliberately struck her in the face with the forearm. Should be an ejection IMO.

SCalScoreKeeper Mon Jan 18, 2016 05:09pm

I was astonished that a F2 wasn't called watching it live.It looks like the arm clearly comes off and gets her in the chin with intent.And good catch to all of you who saw the shove on the rebounding action prior.

Camron Rust Mon Jan 18, 2016 05:33pm

Looks like an F2 to me.


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