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Old Fri Jan 08, 2016, 11:41am
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Great point. Coaches, and people in general, would rather work with someone they feel comfortable with even if that person is not as qualified than a rookie. The old saying along the lines of "the devil that you know..."
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Old Fri Jan 08, 2016, 12:50pm
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I meant to tell the HC to keep him under control since he's a coach but it slipped my mind. This could've solved a headache. Minus mind slippage, you handled everything fine

He says "Oh you guys are just missing all kinds of stuff, sir." So I put air in the whistle and whack him. Here I would've said something to the HC. The person running their mouth may have just been a dad who wants to sit behind the bench and chirp. Who knows, coach may have been waiting for a reason to get the annoying guy away from his team. Later facts change this, but at the time I don't know if you knew it was the AC.

He starts out onto the court saying "Wait a minute, you need to pay attention to the game and ignore what's going on over here." Lol

After the game right after we observe the handshakes, the assistant who got the first T walks up and says "Can I ask you guys a question?" and I didn't really want to. Then don't, you handled this great. Some officials like to blab to coaches and others don't. Done correctly there's nothing wrong with either method.

I feel like I catch more crap from coaches because I look young (I'm 31 but look like I'm maybe 22) and it wears me out. Maybe it's in my head, but I don't see the older guys on my crew have coaches push them as much it seems like they try to get away with with me. Make up for it with how you carry yourself and quality articulation.
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Old Fri Jan 08, 2016, 03:46pm
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After the game right after we observe the handshakes ...
Maybe this is a local thing, but as soon as the horn sounds, I'm leaving with my partners unless there is an issue that needs to be resolved at the table.

No way I would stay and observe handshakes and be available for questions unless my association required it.
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Old Fri Jan 08, 2016, 03:52pm
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Maybe this is a local thing, but as soon as the horn sounds, I'm leaving with my partners unless there is an issue that needs to be resolved at the table.

No way I would stay and observe handshakes and be available for questions unless my association required it.
There is a state that requires this and he is likely from that state. But otherwise thank God we are not asked to do this silliness either. All it can do is cause problems.

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Old Fri Jan 08, 2016, 05:32pm
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Maybe this is a local thing, but as soon as the horn sounds, I'm leaving with my partners unless there is an issue that needs to be resolved at the table.

No way I would stay and observe handshakes and be available for questions unless my association required it.
Not local. It's a requirement for officials in MA. Officials everywhere else should not be sticking around for the postgame handshake.
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Old Fri Jan 08, 2016, 05:33pm
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Not local. It's a requirement for officials in MA. Officials everywhere else should not be sticking around for the postgame handshake.
Or retrieving the damned ball and delivering it, either.
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Old Fri Jan 08, 2016, 05:38pm
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Or retrieving the damned ball and delivering it, either.
Or shaking hands with the table.
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Or shaking hands with the table.
Or standing there and waiting for a thumbs up from the scorer in a 30 point ballgame.
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Old Sat Jan 09, 2016, 11:25pm
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Not local. It's a requirement for officials in MA. Officials everywhere else should not be sticking around for the postgame handshake.
Yup, and it's a nightmare. You just stand there with a feeling of dread until it's over. Mass. has also done away with 30-second timeouts. It's just five full, probably for the last six seasons now.
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Yup, and it's a nightmare. You just stand there with a feeling of dread until it's over. Mass. has also done away with 30-second timeouts. It's just five full, probably for the last six seasons now.
What do they expect you to do if something happens during the post game handshake? I'm asking seriously.
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Old Sun Jan 10, 2016, 08:51pm
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What do they expect you to do if something happens during the post game handshake? I'm asking seriously.
You fill out paperwork and game suspensions are required for violating MIAA rules that forbid fighting, taunting, etc. This applies to players and coaches.

The standards are essentially the same as for any flagrant technical foul under NFHS rules. If this happened during the game, the same paperwork and suspensions would follow -- plus free throws for the flagrant technical fouls (unless they were offsetting.)

In the years this has been the required procedure in Massachusetts, I have had exactly one problem. After a double overtime game, the losing coach approached me to complain about the officiating. I told him I still had jurisdiction under MIAA rules and he shut up and walked away.

I presume there are a few "horror stories," but I have never seen one or spoken to any official who has had any problem staying the 30 seconds it takes to observe the handshake.
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... it's a nightmare. You just stand there with a feeling of dread until it's over.
If I can recall correctly from past posts, the jurisdiction of Massachusetts officials ends when they approve the final score, which is before they observe the postgame handshakes. If anything happens during the postgame handshake observation, there will not be technical fouls, although I believe that the officials can file a report with the state if any shenanigans occur during the postgame handshake observation.
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Old Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:51pm
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Maybe this is a local thing, but as soon as the horn sounds, I'm leaving with my partners unless there is an issue that needs to be resolved at the table.

No way I would stay and observe handshakes and be available for questions unless my association required it.
I always run to locker room door and almost always wait a few minutes until I have to go hunt down the person who assured me they'd be there to let me in after the game.
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Didnt they ban the post-game handshakes in Kentucky for high school a few years ago?
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