Basic lightweight pregame jacket recommendations...?
 

Yes, it's January, but I need a HS pregame jacket and I just can't find one I like- and I am being picky, but I like what I like...

I'm looking for a lightweight jacket, not a heavy one with a lot of cloth like the old Smitty jacket I have (I like it, but want a "thinner" jacket). I don't want a cloth or cotton lining (too heavy and hot) probably some type of nylon-ish lining... I'd prefer something like a Nike Dry-Fit or Basic Eastbay nylon but our board frowns on "personal choice" kind of thing.... It's not a really big deal, but since I'm having to spend more than 10 minutes finding what I know I'll like- does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
Z

I would suggest getting the jacket that every other official in your association wears. IOW whatever the consensus is in your area. Unless you have no ambition to advance.

great answer...when you walk out there with three different jackets on as a crew you look sloppy at best.

Well that would be impossible here. And the last time I looked, most jackets are not exactly the same anyway unless you buy the exact same style and brand. I have a jacket is probably over 10 years old, but I only wear it for basketball officiating and looks like new. They stopped making that jacket and there is almost no way I would match with a single partner. But you cannot tell anyway because all of our jackets are black. Some wear their jackets better than others.

Peace

And, if it has a lining, see if your tailor can take it out.

Impossible?

Maybe we are just a step ahead in my association but all jackets that are worn have to be ordered through the association to ensure uniformity. We have guys with jackets that are 10+ years old and they match mine which I purchased when I came here 3 years ago.

Yes impossible. We do not work through one entity or association here. Associations are only training organizations, not assigning ones (unless they want to get into some tax trouble).

And the jacket I have stopped being made some time ago. It is the old Sahara jacket that used to be used by the CCA before they changed the jacket style with the type of sleeves (white shoulder design). You cannot buy that anymore anywhere as the company stopped making them or went out of business either way. You could not buy a jacket now that is that style. And it looks almost the same as any other jacket.

This need to match everything is silly to me and always has been. We do not wear the same shoes. We do not wear the exact same pants. We do not wear the same shirts or style of shirts in many cases. No one would notice unless they stand right next to you anyway. And the jacket is something that is black and looks the same from a far unless you really inspected them. We all are different heights, sizes and have different looks. And most of all I work with guys all the time from different areas and associations often and trying to match that stuff would be impossible as I stated. People do not buy stuff through their association, they wear whatever they like as long as it fits the classifications in color and basic style.

Peace

When I'm sitting in the stands and see the refs come in with slightly different jackets, I just lose all respect for them and know its gonna be a crappy game. :rolleyes:

I know I'll have to yell "call it both ways," "watch the reaching in," and "C'mon, he's over the back" a lot more in those games. :cool:

The year I joined the association, the member gift was a new jacket with assn logo on left breast of jacket. I like it, it's comfortable and unless you are with a very new guy, you always match. Also, they were ordered from a local guy who is also an official who did all the logo work, so new guys can get one, just have to pay for it whereas mine was free [emoji106]


I wish I had a cool signature

You all don't wear the same shirts? Must look odd, one with stripes and one without. But on a serious note I have had my HS jacket for 30 years and anyone coming into our asociation this year as a varsity official can and is expected to wear the exact same jacket that I have. It is still available and can be ordered through our association. Not being dressed in unison creates an immediate image of one official being better or less experienced then their partner. I carry two shirts in my bag, one with the black insert and one without to ensure that I match my partner or partners. Granted there are slight differences in pants, pleated or non, and shoes are a personal choice as well but people don't focus on the small details. They look at the bigger picture and a jacket is the largest thing you are wearing when you make your first impression. As stated previously, if one really wants to advance, your personal appearance is the first thing that will either help you advance or hold you back.

I work with guys from different associations, different states, different levels...and everyone of them, when they do a game with our association wears our jacket, it is about professionalism if you ask me but to each their own. If we get in a situation where someone doesn't have one then no one wears a jacket.

I'm military and PCS every few years...I have so many damn jackets it isn't funny. They wear a pull over here, they wear a button up there. Sure they are all black but I'm not wearing a different jacket than my partners.

Well we do not get assigned games by association. I work for a conference that a guy that might be associated with multiple local officials associations (LOAs). And it is not a requirement to be a member of an specific association in most cases to get games. I just worked many Christmas Tournaments and many of us are members of multiple or not the same organizations for multiple reasons.

Now I get that you might be military or have that background, but I find it odd that there are multiple vendors that sell multiple brands of shirts, pants, jackets and shoes but it would be expected to buy only one brand throughout an organization. So do you guys only buy one brand of shirt? So what if that shirt is discontinued, does that mean I have to buy a different shirt because the entire association cannot have that shirt anymore?

I have things for almost 10 years that I take care of and still look good. I am not buying new stuff to fulfill some silly standard of uniformity that would be almost impossible to achieve. I know I am not wearing specific shoes just to make me totally uniform when my feet are too important to wear a pair of shoes that do not fit right or that hurt me in the long run. Is the uniformity stop at the jacket or apply to everything like the socks I wear?

Peace

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So do you guys only buy one brand of shirt? So what if that shirt is discontinued, does that mean I have to buy a different shirt because the entire association cannot have that shirt anymore?

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Our state has 2 approved vendors for shirts...so yes, hands are tied there.

We can buy pants wherever we want as long as they are beltless and pleated

We can wear what shoes we want...that is pretty much our one area of "freedom".

During our many Christmas Tournaments we didn't wear jackets if one of the three didn't have the correct one.

I have the newer Honigs Jacket, and it is much lighter than the previous one I owned.

Zip Front Premium Bball Jacket - Basketball - Sports

Well we have about 3 vendors that are often used to sell stuff with a logo on them. All of our shirts have to have a logo/patch/embroidery on them. No particular brand and when the IHSA made one vendor the officials vendor, it caused problems. So basically we can wear multiple styles, brands or types as long as they fit the basic standard as stated in the uniform, striped shirts, black pants, black shoes, black socks and a whistle with a lanyard. You have that basic uniform you are good. I do not care if one person has a different shirt than another official. Heck half the time I do not notice or know if they have a different shirt.

Peace

I wish someone would make one that didn't have the really tight elastic around the waist.

They change our logo so often that everyone matches as we have to keep up with the uniforms.

I assume most would scoff at this jacket...but it is very lightweight, sharp, and doesn't look like it was made in 1972.

https://officiallysports.com/index.c...17&page=detail

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not for basketball.

says who?
browse to Basketball/Pregame Jackets...

How many varsity officials have you seen wearing all weather jackets with ties at the bottom?

This is where I agree that we should wear a basic style the same, but to match the exact jacket is silly.

Just like we all do not wear any type of striped shirt, we wear a V-neck shirt in most cases, but the fabric might be slightly different from one person to another. Or we wear pants without belts, but no one cares if we wear Sansabelt vs. Gerry Davis Pants or even Honigs as long as you look basically the same.

Peace

just one.
and he's done multiple state playoff games in 3 different districts and never heard a word about it. (pssst, it's me)
so, all this "get the right jacket if you want to advance crap" is silly.

NOW - if my assignor, district rep, OR governing state association noted that it wasn't approved...then that'd be a different story.

+1 what he said.

SO the logic is that the outlier is that one official has taken this path and it's worked for him so it should work for anyone?

I cannot speak directly for your area, but working playoff games of some kind is not always a tacit approval of everything an official does. There might be other factors. But I would be concerned if only one person is doing something and is not overly successful to everyone else around them. It might be a coincidence what jacket he wears compared to what he does in the playoffs.

Peace

the ability to advance based on one's jacket was brought up.
i simply stated how it hasn't affected me in that aspect.
the OP can take or leave that. i far from suggested that he has to buy this jacket to advance OR that my jacket caused me to advance OR that i'm puffing my chest from how many games i've done.

the OP asked for recommendations. and even tho he stated: our board frowns on "personal choice" kind of thing.... It's not a really big deal.
i just gave him one a suggestion based on his thread title.

Advance to another level and then use your argument...it carries zero water at the moment.

And all I said it seem silly for everyone to buy the same jacket when it is possible that yearly a vendor stops selling a particular brand. This is my 20th year an I would be really upset if I had to buy a new jacket every other year because a vendor stopped selling a jacket and I and others had to buy something new that is hardly used. And I think I also said basically I am glad I do not have an association that has that requirement.

Peace

LOL
i have no "argument"
just made a suggestion that was criticized and apologize for derailing the thread.
at least i gave him a suggestion. most just told the OP what he already knew, which is helpful.

which i 100% agree with. most of time we don't even wear jackets in the regular season, whether we all have them or not. we do however (most of the time) wear them in the playoffs...in which we are evaluated, which would be where "fashion and crew uniformity tips" would come up and be noted, which is the main reason that i even brought that up.

This is why I talk about the "culture" of where you live and work. What you do does not necessarily get repeated in other places.

We wear jackets almost all the time. It is apart of the culture of what we do for the most part during the regular season and post season.

Peace

We wear ours every night. The only time it comes off early is if BOTH teams leave the floor -- then we'll go back to the locker room quickly and pack our jackets.

While we do the same, and we're about to transition from a dark blue jacket to a black jacket, I wish we'd just eliminate them completely. There really is no need for them.

I have no problem with jackets at all. A lot of the time the gyms are cold and not at a comfortable temperature when we are just standing around. I like the fact that everyone else is wearing jackets, so why not us?

Years ago they used to allow the option of dark blue or black. Now we just can only wear black, which is cool with me.

Peace

Definition Of Insanity ???
 

We had been happy with our locally produced jackets for a very long time, until we were told that they had some international trademark issues. We went to a new locally produced jacket with a new local logo, jackets selected by our executive committee. We didn't like it, it wasn't very wrinkle resistant, and had a satin finish (remember disco roller skating?). Executive committee decided to give those that didn't like the satin jacket a partial refund and came up a new locally produced jacket. First orders were fine. Last few orders were puffy jackets designed for outdoors (remember George Costanza in the liquor store in Seinfeld?). We've just received notice that those that don't like their puffy jackets will be given some type of refund.

What I'd really like to see is the current college jacket with no white and no logo. The waistband is the same material as the sleeve cuffs.

Maybe I'm too new school.... the current and old ref jackets are just that... Old, ugly, hot....

Same one my dad wore in the 1980s...

I'd love to have some type of jacket I'd actually wear outside a gym.

The jacket is not meant to be worn outside. It lives in my bag and is worn about 30 minutes and goes back in my bag at halftime.

Several of our guys wear them to and from gym. I don't bc I just don't but it's not really that frowned on here

My thoughts exactly! Have our prayers been answered with this one?
https://www.purchaseofficials.com/cg...&category=3131

If you click back from that page, it's apparently been approved in Ohio and is offered with an OHSAA patch. They are also offering an Illinois-patched version, though not saying anything about whether it's been "approved."

This needs to catch on NOW! Has anyone else seen these in use in other states?

I know there will be pushback to keep the corny old jackets, but these are also less expensive somehow!

OK, OK, I know I'm probably a little too excited :rolleyes:

I do not know who came up with the stand up collar design but I do not care for it.

The Smitty Zip Front Jacket is what Mark, Jr., and I wear. We each have an OhioHSAA logo jacket and an IAABO logo jacket in that style. And back when I still worked college ball I had that the Smitty style jacket with the CCA logo. I retired from college ball just a the style of jackets that are being worn know we the required jackets.

MTD, Sr.

So I'm assuming a few officials in your association are already wearing these standup-collar jackets, or will this be the first season?

The OhioHSAA mandates that basketball warmup jackets shall have be black with the embroidered OhioHSAA logo. There are only two websites that are allowed to sell the jackets and both carry the Smitty jackets, including the high collar jacket.

MTD, Sr.