Kansas/Oklahoma Shooting Foul followed by T

[VaTerp]

3.9 seconds left in the 1st half. Defender appears to make a legal play on the ball and the official, looking through the players, calls a shooting foul.
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Kansas defender reaction warranted a T IMO but it was not called as Bill Self earns an easy T yelling in the calling officials face.

T was easy but I thought the shooting foul was a complete guess and a pretty egregious call.

[spret93]

He was straight-lined and had no look at the play. So he must have guessed. If you see "asses and elbows", you have to "move to improve" is what my mentors have told me.


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[bas2456]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

3.9 seconds left in the 1st half. Defender appears to make a legal play on the ball and the official, looking through the players, calls a shooting foul.
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Kansas defender reaction warranted a T IMO but it was not called as Bill Self earns an easy T yelling in the calling officials face.

T was easy but I thought the shooting foul was a complete guess and a pretty egregious call.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly. I was wondering how long it would take for a thread on this play to start.

[BigCat]

I usually know when I screw up. I'll give the player a little rope in an emotional game ...and the coach, if I'm next to him and he is in his box. Easy T here. He is on floor screaming at him. No choice but to T him. Referee called it calmly. Just another call.

[OKREF]

Mason earned a T as well. If you notice Self was already in the guys ear before the play happened. He's trying to talk to Self, and officiate. He just missed that. Didn't have a good look at it.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by OKREF

If you notice Self was already in the guys ear before the play happened. He's trying to talk to Self, and officiate. He just missed that. Didn't have a good look at it.

You know, some guys who work tableside C/T multi-task by talking to the coach while officiating all the time. And they're good at it. Gene Steretore is a master at it (sometimes I think he could lay out a picnic blanket at the coach's feet and still officiate). I'm smart enough to know I can't do that. Heck, I can barely walk and chew gum at the same time.

So if you can get away with it and keep getting plays right, why not? The lesson learned in this case may be that the final 10 seconds of a half isn't the best time for it.

Edit: I just saw the play from an angle by the table. You know, I don't think the C got straight-lined so much as he just anticipated. Rare at that level, but we all do it sometimes. Look on C's face was that of immediate regret. I had one like that about four days ago. My worst call of the year; fast break, I'm racing to new L, pull up jumper.....and air in the whistle too quickly. It was a great, clean block. Fiddlesticks.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

You know, some guys who work tableside C/T multi-task by talking to the coach while officiating all the time. And they're good at it. Gene Steretore is a master at it (sometimes I think he could lay out a picnic blanket at the coach's feet and still officiate). I'm smart enough to know I can't do that. Heck, I can barely walk and chew gum at the same time.

So if you can get away with it and keep getting plays right, why not? The lesson learned in this case may be that the final 10 seconds of a half isn't the best time for it.

Sure, but that play could happen in the first ten seconds of the half too. Bottom line is it was a bad call and I'm sure he'l regret it when he sees it on video (perhaps he has already.)

[johnny d]

I missed the play and haven't seen the replay, but it doesn't matter how bad the call may have been. If Self was out of the box acting like an ass, then he deserved the T. He has been around long enough to know he will briefly get his say, and then it is time to move on.

[ballgame99]

Video: Bill Self Lost His Mind, Picked Up A Technical Foul | College Spun

Looks like a really bad guess.