Which Side of the Lane Line?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Refhoop

How would you handle a throw-in to half court, opposite the table, followed by a quick shot...?
Can the average 64 year old veteran get there in time to get that last shot or do you have the C table side get the last shot?

We can shift from the standard "opposite" to "C tableside" in this situation IF all officials communicate during the stoppage.

But, all officials should have an opinion anyway. Nothing (almost) that happens away from the ball will matter as much as the shot.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

If I'm opposite trail, I still have the last shot even if I'm at the end line. I don't have to be on top of the shooter to see if he's released the ball before the horn. I can see the sun and it's 93 million miles away.

Sure, but are all players as bright as the sun?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Sure, but are all players as bright as the sun?

Their parents think so.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Sure, but are all players as bright as the sun?

Only in the Lake Wobegon rec league.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Only in the Lake Wobegon rec league.

Where the GV players are strong,
the male cheerleaders are good looking,
and the referees are above average?

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Where the GV players are strong,
the male cheerleaders are good looking,
and the referees are above average?

It must be that all the good refs are in Lake Wobegone, as when I sit in the stands and listen to the comments about refs, it is pretty clear that all of the ones we get are way below average . . .

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

... are all players as bright as the sun?

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Their parents think so.

I'm so bright that my mother calls me Sonny.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Sure, but are all players as bright as the sun?

Not in class.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I am putting ball in table side. If he wants to move to the other side, he can once I give him the ball.

Same here.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

I can't believe there is this much discussion on this topic. If the player wants the ball on the other side of the basket, move over there and administer the throw. C & T need to adjust to your new positioning.

I always move if the player asks and only once had a partner complain that I made him "long switch." Moving up to become the C in this situation isn't a long switch, and if your legs can't get you to the proper position you've got more problems than this.

I cannot believe this is a discussion either. The player can throw the ball from anywhere he wishes. They do not get to dictate where I put the ball in play. And in my area we are not allowed by our mechanic to bounce the ball across the lane or anywhere on the end line.

I have in my 20 years and counting only had one coach make this request and they did not even communicate what they wanted done. He got a T for his actions. And I have gone on to work much better games and I have not seen that coach since. So I guess it is really not a big deal.

Peace

[Raymond]

I had a game this year where each team had a situation where they made the request and we satisfied the request on each occasion. This was in a college game and the crew thought it was no big deal at all. And both my partners have been working college ball at least 20 years.

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[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I had a game this year where each team had a situation where they made the request and we satisfied the request on each occasion. This was in a college game and the crew thought it was no big deal at all. And both my partners have been working college ball at least 20 years.

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I'm shocked that crews simply wouldn't go "OK" and just do it. There are places where I draw a line in the sand, but this ain't it.

We give benches the spot on a designated spot throw-in. For an end line runner, why exactly can't they request a starting spot? Nobody's given me a good reason yet.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm shocked that crews simply wouldn't go "OK" and just do it. There are places where I draw a line in the sand, but this ain't it.

We give benches the spot on a designated spot throw-in. For an end line runner, why exactly can't they request a starting spot? Nobody's given me a good reason yet.

It is an extremely rare request. Most officials probably never get this request and when they do, it is confusing. I will say this again, I have only been asked for this request once and it was so confusing the coach got mad and had to be T'd. Then when he complained to the assignor, the assignor laughed it off. And as a clinician with my state, this is never discussed because I doubt anyone gets this request.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is an extremely rare request ... as a clinician with my state, this is never discussed because I doubt anyone gets this request.

True, it's an extremely rare request, but when it is requested, the NFHS should have some rule in place allowing officials to deal with the request. Either give it to the inbounder where the official wants it to be inbounded and let the inbounder run, or give it to the inbounder where the inbounder wants it.

Even without a request for a certain spot after a made basket, where time out is requested, and granted, with the ball still on the floor IAABO (and possibly NFHS) mechanics are ambivalent regarding where the inbounder will be handed the ball. Should officials inbound it for convenience sake (table side, or opposite table side) or should they inbound it as they were set up before the time out request? I would like to see this spelled out. Of course I would like own a villa in Tuscany, but that ain't gonna happen, is it?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

True, it's an extremely rare request, but when it is requested, the NFHS should have some rule in place allowing officials to deal with the request. Either give it to the inbounder where the official wants it to be inbounded and let the inbounder run, or give it to the inbounder where the inbounder wants it.

The request is so rare, I bet no one even thinks about this. Why come up with a policy that never is an issue?

Originally Posted by BillyMac

NFHS, and IAABO mechanics (I realize that JRutledge uses neither)

I have never said we do not use NF Mechanics, but keep telling that story.

Peace