length of overtime period incorrect

billyu2

Clock operator puts 3:00 on the board instead of 4:00 for a varsity game overtime period. Team A wins in the overtime but before the officials leave the floor it is recognized that the length of the overtime period was incorrect. Would resuming the overtime (with 1:00 remaining) be correct?

Raymond

See case play 5.7.3. Not exactly your scenario, but it covers the proper adjudication.

BatteryPowered

billyu2 wrote
Clock operator puts 3:00 on the board instead of 4:00 for a varsity game overtime period. Team A wins in the overtime but before the officials leave the floor it is recognized that the length of the overtime period was incorrect. Would resuming the overtime (with 1:00 remaining) be correct?

Better question...At what point during the overtime period did the officials pull their...err, wake up from their nap?

As the R, before I even consider starting the extra period I am checking the clock, counting the players and checking with my partners (I have already verified the book). As the U (or one of them) I am not giving the R a thumbs up to proceed until I know we are ready.

BillyMac

BadNewsRef wrote
See case play 5.7.3. Not exactly your scenario, but it covers the proper adjudication.

5.7.3 SITUATION: Following a violation in the first extra period, the timer beckons
the referee to the table. The timer informs the referee that by mistake the period
started with: (a) more; or (b) less than four minutes on the clock. RULING: In
(a), if the mistake is discovered before the clock reaches four minutes, the clock
shall be set at four minutes and play resumes. If discovered after reaching four
minutes, no correction is allowed. In (b), the appropriate amount of time shall be
added to reflect a four-minute period. (2-5-5)

billyu2

BadNewsRef wrote
See case play 5.7.3. Not exactly your scenario, but it covers the proper adjudication.

I was reviewing the caseplay earlier today and that's when I got the idea for my scenario. I had never heard of this happening before and was wondering if anyone else had; and if so, did the officials put 1:00 minute back on the board and continue the OT or just rule game over?

BryanV21

For the record, I don't know the answer. However, the fact that the game ended in the OP makes me believe that the time can't be added to the clock, meaning the game is over.

billyu2

BatteryPowered wrote
Better question...At what point during the overtime period did the officials pull their...err, wake up from their nap?
I indicated the error was recognized after the OT period.

As the R, before I even consider starting the extra period I am checking the clock, counting the players and checking with my partners (I have already verified the book). As the U (or one of them) I am not giving the R a thumbs up to proceed until I know we are ready.

I think we all understand to do this but; goofier mistakes than this have happened by some pretty good officials at all levels.

billyu2

BryanV21 wrote
For the record, I don't know the answer. However, the fact that the game ended in the OP makes me believe that the time can't be added to the clock, meaning the game is over.

But the officials haven't left the floor so they still have jurisdiction, right?

BryanV21

billyu2 wrote
But the officials haven't left the floor so they still have jurisdiction, right?

Yeah, but is that the type of error that can be corrected at that point? It's not like a scoring mistake, such as a player getting only two points instead of three. Heck, can a correctable error like not awarding a merited free throw be corrected once the game ends*?

*yeah, I should probably know the answer to that 😕

WhistlesAndStripes

BryanV21 wrote
Heck, can a correctable error like not awarding a merited free throw be corrected once the game ends*?

*yeah, I should probably know the answer to that :confused:

Only if you are still within the allowable window to correct the error.

Raymond

BryanV21 wrote
Yeah, but is that the type of error that can be corrected at that point? ...

Did you read the relevant case play and rule referenced in this thread?

Adam

Whistles & Stripes wrote
Only if you are still within the allowable window to correct the error.

What window is this? It's not a CE, it's a timing and scoring error.

Dad

Adam wrote
What window is this? It's not a CE, it's a timing and scoring error.

Bryan brought up a CE with FTs.

Gutierrez7

BillyMac wrote
In (b), the appropriate amount of time shall be
added to reflect a four-minute period. (2-5-5)

Help please!

This Rules section appears to address a time before the horn blows. It's less clear to me what to do after the horn does blow.

Is the game completed and we leave the visual confines of the court?
or
If we are to put 1 minute on the clock, how do we put the ball back in play?

Tip off?
AP arrow?
Point of interruption?

Raymond

Gutierrez7 wrote
Help please!

This Rules section appears to address a time before the horn blows. It's less clear to me what to do after the horn does blow.

Is the game completed and we leave the visual confines of the court?
or
If we are to put 1 minute on the clock, how do we put the ball back in play?

Tip off?
AP arrow?
Point of interruption?

Point of interruption if remembered, AP arrow if not.

Is there statute of limitations for correcting timing and scoring errors?

Dad

BadNewsRef wrote
POI of interruption if remembered, AP arrow if not.

Is there statute of limitations for correcting timing and scoring errors?

😕 Is this a thing or a typo?