Pass and Crash

bob jenkins

Gutierrez7 wrote
Clarification: pass to JCA near 3pt arc in/near the "corner" by the "end line".

That doesn't sound like any kind of "joint coverage area" for two-person mechanics.

Gutierrez7

bob jenkins wrote
That doesn't sound like any kind of "joint coverage area" for two-person mechanics.

Simply trying to articulate in words that the ball moved far away as possible from the Lead and Trail and not back out to the top of the key.

Does that help?

What is your judgement on the OP scenarios? Thanks.

deecee

The boundary in the paint and FT line extended is the dual coverage spots in 2-person mechanics.

In 3 person the corner at the L/T area is kinda a dual coverage spot in NCAAM but for the L it's only to mark, the T has the shooter and all subsequent contact.

deecee

Rule of thumb is whomever's primary the ball goes to that official stays with the ball. In the dual cover spots ideally I prefer the T take the 3.

Camron Rust

Gutierrez7 wrote
Clarification: pass to JCA near 3pt arc in/near the "corner" by the "end line".

Does that help? Will that change your comments?

Thanks again.

There is no such thing in 2-person. The only overlapping coverage area is where the lane line extended intercepts the 3-point arc.

Camron Rust

deecee wrote
Rule of thumb is whomever's primary the ball goes to that official stays with the ball. In the dual cover spots ideally I prefer the T take the 3.

Agree.

That is probably a lot cleaner way of describing what I was saying.

However, does that still apply if the L has crossed the paint to be on the same side as the T?

deecee

Camron Rust wrote
However, does that still apply if the L has crossed the paint to be on the same side as the T?

Why not? you still have an obligation to your PCA first and foremost.

Camron Rust

deecee wrote
Why not? you still have an obligation to your PCA first and foremost.

In 2-person, when the lead comes strong side, the trail is expected to pick up some of what is normally the L's PCA (the far side) if there is an immediately pass/play out there before the L returns. In that case, it could be that the T has the better view of a pass to the opposite side while the L might be screen out of that.

deecee

Camron Rust wrote
In 2-person, when the lead comes strong side, the trail is expected to pick up some of what is normally the L's PCA (the far side) if there is an immediately pass/play out there before the L returns. In that case, it could be that the T has the better view of a pass to the opposite side while the L might be screen out of that.

I just prefer to keep it simple. Your area, your responsibility on this type of play. Of course by default the T will probably look over due to positioning but I try and keep the what ifs to a minimum where possible.

BillyMac

deecee wrote
Rule of thumb is whomever's primary the ball goes to that official stays with the ball.

That's how we do it in my little corner of Connecticut. It hasn't always been that way, but that's the way we do it now.

(It used to be Lead takes the pass, Trail takes the crash.)

It certainly should be part of any good pregame conference.

TimTaylor

billymac wrote
it certainly should be part of any good pregame conference.

+100

OKREF

"Lead takes the pass, Trail takes the crash", what we do here.

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deecee wrote
Rule of thumb is whomever's primary the ball goes to that official stays with the ball.

That's what I've heard as well. If the pass is within your primary, you take the ball. If the pass is out of your primary you take the crash. I'm comfortable with any official getting the crash with a cadence whistle, provided they don't signal into a blarge.

Camron Rust

BillyMac wrote
It certainly should be part of any good pregame conference.

With all of the stuff I see people say should be part of a pregame conference, I'd have to get to my games 3 days early just to cover it all.

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Camron Rust wrote
With all of the stuff I see people say should be part of a pregame conference, I'd have to get to my games 3 days early just to cover it all.

Kinda sad a lot of HS guys spend more time pregaming the 7-8 mechanics things they do differently than everyone else instead of more important things.