Which Ref Is Correct?

[SAK]

Originally Posted by Dad

If you think these officials should be on the site, then most of these points are mute. Trail is new and not going to have strong mechanics. T handled the play well and cleared it up.

I'd explain this to a supervisor with zero problems. Everyone was confused and he wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page. You have no idea where he was looking and to top it off watching your primary doesn't mean your blind to everything else in the gym.

While it does not mean that you are blind to the rest of the gym I would have a hard time going that far out of my area to reach for a call. To make that call I would have to be 100% sure or more.

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[Dad]

Originally Posted by SAK

While it does not mean that you are blind to the rest of the gym I would have a hard time going that far out of my area to reach for a call. To make that call I would have to be 100% sure or more.

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I really don't think he was reaching for a call. The table was holding up for what looks like 5 fouls before the lead even comes in. Looks like the call stood to me and it was just the initial reaction by the coach, player, and mechanics of the trail which caused the lead to come over.

[zm1283]

I don't have a problem with what the Lead did. If I had a partner who was so lax with his signal at the spot of the foul, his reporting, and what happened afterwards, I would want some clarification as well.

I was going to mention getting in the backcourt and counting as well, but I figured everyone else would see that stuff on their own.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I was going to mention getting in the backcourt and counting as well, but I figured everyone else would see that stuff on their own.

I thought he was very lazy to get into position. A quick steal would have really put him out of position and he would have had to possibly make a long distance call. He was not officiating the current play, but officiating what he hoped would be the next play IMO. And might have been the reason he was not giving the right signals.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SAK

While it does not mean that you are blind to the rest of the gym I would have a hard time going that far out of my area to reach for a call. To make that call I would have to be 100% sure or more.

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Are you talking about the Lead? I'm pretty sure all he did was clarify the T's call since there was so much confusion. Judging by the rest of the action (offensive coach's reactions, table holding up 5 as soon as he does his walk-by report) in the video, T called the defender for the foul from the start. No one knew but him right away because he pointed the wrong way.

I'm guessing he's a relatively new official. This is clearly summer or fall ball judging by the team waiting behind the bench with the bleachers pushed in. The L was likely the veteran official here.

We've all been there with a newer partner who just doesn't have good mechanics yet. The guy made the right call, he just got the mechanics wrong.