Sub T or Team T?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by OKREF

You let subs in if they check in after the first horn?

If a sub doesn't check in at the table and just comes in the game how the heck would I know. Unless the coach sends in a completely different 5 and I noticed no one went to the table I have no clue. I also have no idea who checks in between quarters, ESPECIALLY if the just walk onto the court at part of the 5 players.

IOW I don't track who is in and who is out. In most cases I notice when a player goes out to keep track of when they can come back in, but even then that is not 100% of the time. We cannot keep track of everything.

But if a player goes to check in AFTER the warning horn then he/she isn't coming in the game, if I notice this. The smart thing would be to not even check in and just enter. 99 out of 100 times no one will be the wiser.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by deecee

The smart thing would be to not even check in and just enter. 99 out of 100 times no one will be the wiser.

I've always thought this too. I'm not about to go out and advertise it, but I know in virtually all my games, this probably wouldn't get caught.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by deecee

If a sub doesn't check in at the table and just comes in the game how the heck would I know. Unless the coach sends in a completely different 5 and I noticed no one went to the table I have no clue. I also have no idea who checks in between quarters, ESPECIALLY if the just walk onto the court at part of the 5 players.

IOW I don't track who is in and who is out. In most cases I notice when a player goes out to keep track of when they can come back in, but even then that is not 100% of the time. We cannot keep track of everything.

But if a player goes to check in AFTER the warning horn then he/she isn't coming in the game, if I notice this. The smart thing would be to not even check in and just enter. 99 out of 100 times no one will be the wiser.

So what are you doing during the time out? Here most games are 2 man mechanics, so the administrating official is at the half court line. It's extremely easy to watch the table during the timeout. Your going to know if someone tried to check in after the first horn, even with 3 man mechanics this can be done. I will agree that if they just come in straight from the bench to floor, it would be much harder to recognize.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by OKREF

So what are you doing during the time out? Here most games are 2 man mechanics, so the administrating official is at the half court line. It's extremely easy to watch the table during the timeout. Your going to know if someone tried to check in after the first horn, even with 3 man mechanics this can be done. I will agree that if they just come in straight from the bench to floor, it would be much harder to recognize.

I would suggest you go back and read all my posts.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Between first and second quarters. First warning horn has sounded. V-6 checks in at the table, and is advised he must wait until the clock has started in the second quarter until being allowed into the game.

Nobody has commented on this part of the post, but are we sure this is right?

Isn't the "clock properly starting" component only relevant when a player is subbed out of the game? In this case, he simply reported after the warning horn. If the period starts without the clock running, can't we then beckon the sub in at the next dead ball?

[BigCat]

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Originally Posted by billyu2

The section you have cited assumes the player has reported before the warning horn. He then doesn't have to be beckoned. When he is late he has to be beckoned at next opportunity. Also, the official put the ball on the floor. That is "at disposal" and ball is live. Quarter starts then even though clock hasn't run.

Scrapper. See above. He has to wait until next opportunity. Clock doesn't have to start. That wasn't the q in the OP. He said the player was advised he had to wait....He very well could have been told that by someone. Wrongly....

[bob jenkins]

The quarter has to start. The clock doesn't.