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Nevadaref Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:11pm

Found in MTD's attic!
 
<header class="article-header">Researcher finds rare audio of basketball inventor James Naismith

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LAWRENCE, Kan. -- A University of Kansas researcher has discovered what is believed to be the only audio recording of basketball inventor James Naismith, during which he describes the first game he organized 124 years ago this month as a bit of a disaster.
Michael J. Zogry, an associate professor of religious studies, obtained the nearly 3-minute audio in November from the Library of Congress. It was part of a radio show from New York station WOR-AM called "We the People." During the Jan. 31, 1939, program, Naismith explained how he set up the game with two peach baskets at the International YMCA Training School in Springfield, Massachusetts, in December 1891.
Naismith said he had been given two weeks to devise a new indoor activity for his gym class. The work was hurried along by what he described as a "real New England blizzard" that had the youngsters climbing the walls with little to do.
"We tried everything to keep them quiet," Naismith said on the recording, but the students were bored with a "modified" form of football tried in the gym. Naismith figured it was time to try his new idea using an "old soccer ball" and two teams of nine players each.
"I told them the idea was to throw the ball into the opposing team's peach basket," he said. "I blew a whistle and the first game of basketball began."
It didn't go smoothly. Naismith said the players almost immediately started tackling each other -- and worse. Two young men suffered black eyes while another was knocked out, and he had to pull players apart, he said.
"I didn't have enough (rules), and that's where I made my big mistake," Naismith said.
Naismith's description of that first game helps shed light on the process that led him to draft the 13 original rules of the game, Zogry told The Associated Press on Tuesday. It appears that he wrote the new rules shortly after the first game, although the exact timeline isn't clear, he said. Zogry intends to research his findings with other research on that topic.
"What we know is there was the first game, then there was a second game with the full complement of rules," Zogry said. "He said the players were nagging him about (the new rules) so it sounds like it happened in pretty quick fashion."
Naismith's grandson, Jim Naismith, first heard his grandfather's voice once Zogry obtained the audio. He said the recording "changes just about everything that's been written about that first game."
"When he turned those 18 guys loose, obviously they were having a good time, but obviously this was kind of try number one. He commented and said he didn't write enough rules. It came out of that experience," Jim Naismith said in a university news release. "That makes a lot of sense."
Rob Rains, the author of "James Naismith: The Man Who Invented Basketball," co-written with Naismith's granddaughter Hellen Carpenter, said he didn't know any other audio recording of Naismith. He said the recording suggests that the game "was modified much more quickly than we first thought."
Zogry said he was surprised to discover the audio and realize it was the only existing recording of Naismith's voice.
"That I was able to find something like this in this day and age, when the media is ubiquitous, to actually find a form of media that had been lost to history and be able to share it with the public through the KU archives is very exciting," he said.
The University of Kansas, where Naismith worked for 40 years and was the first basketball coach, has obtained the 13 original rules and is building a structure to house them

AremRed Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:11am

Loved the part about "not enough rules", they sure changed that! :D

BlueDevilRef Thu Dec 17, 2015 09:44am

I think it is hilarious that players were griping about rules as soon as they were introduced! Bet it wasn't too long for coaches to start doing the same. Great post.

Has anyone seen the 30 for 30 about the original rules of basketball? It's a great one


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bainsey Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:22am

Beautiful piece of sports history. I don't know which made me laugh more, the brawl of the first game, or the radio sponsor -- Sanka Coffee!

Mark Padgett Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:08am

That's not Naismith on the recording - it's Billy Packer! :eek:

Welpe Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef (Post 973274)
Bet it wasn't too long for coaches to start doing
the same.

Do you think they used the line "That must be a new rule this year." ?

bob jenkins Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:20am

"The referee last game let us tackle the player."

"I wish you guys would be consistent."

RadioBlue Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:17am

A player could actually say, "In our last game, they didn't call that!" and they'd be right ... and not lying! :D


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