Shoot the Bonus?

Nevadaref

splitveer wrote
A one point game late in the 3rd quarter. A1 is fouled by B1 and goes to the line to shoot 2 Free throws. Before the foul shots blood is seen on A1 jersey and B1 has a bloody lip.

We decided to give time to get jersey changed for A1 and B1 to get his lip taken care of. This did not take a lot of time. Now, I realize the rule states that players must leave the floor for Blood, and can be brought back in the game with a timeout. But since both players were key players on each team we decided to handle it in a different way and let them stay without the charged timeout. Neither team was gaining an advantage or disadvantage based on the rule as we saw it.

Was this bad game management since we disregarded the rule, or was this appropriate based on the situation? OK fellas, let me have it!

What other rules did you decide to ignore during this game?
Did you allow illegal headbands? Did you call traveling? Did you let each team have twelve seconds to advance the ball to the frontcourt?
See my point?
Why would you set aside a clearly written rule? If the teams wanted to have those players remain in the game at that point, then they needed to use a timeout, otherwise just get subs in for them. What's the big deal?

crosscountry55

JRutledge wrote
JV is usually played on Saturday mornings where a few of the varsity bench players and sometimes a sophomore team player or two might play as well to get more playing time or playing time with better players.

When I was in high school in Southeast WI in the late 90s, we used the much sexier term, "Varsity Reserve" for this. Do they still call it that anywhere?

BillyMac

Pretty simple here in Connecticut. If one is good enough to play varsity, they play varsity. If not, and they're not a freshman, they play junior varsity. If not, and they are a freshman, they play on the freshman team.

Some prep schools use fancier names for subvarsity games: seconds, thirds.

Raymond

BillyMac wrote
Pretty simple here in Connecticut. If one is good enough to play varsity, they play varsity. If not, and they're not a freshman, they play junior varsity. If not, and they are a freshman, they play on the freshman team.

Some prep schools use fancier names for subvarsity games: seconds, thirds.

I'm glad it is simple here. Varsity, JV, and middle school. That's it, 3 levels of public school ball. 8th graders in middle school are allowed to moved up to their future HS's JV team.

Private schools have V, JV, JJV.

Adam

Dad wrote
How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?

This really depends on regional issues. In some areas, JV is entry level. In others, it takes time to get even to that level.

Raymond

Dad wrote
How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?

Better question, how can someone who has been posting since Feb 2007 not know the rule?

Dad

BadNewsRef wrote
Better question, how can someone who has been posting since Feb 2007 not know the rule?

Coach 😀

onetime1

BadNewsRef wrote
Better question, how can someone who has been posting since Feb 2007 not know the rule?

Sorry I am 17 and just starting to learn the many rules of NFHS basketball. This is one that I needed clarification on. I think I have all the other 7673 rules down pat as I know the rest of you veteran officials do. I simply used my late father's log in and password to obtain much needed information. I really appreciate the assistance. The 2007 date has little if anything to relate to my question or answer.

Raymond

onetime1 wrote
Sorry I am 17 and just starting to learn the many rules of NFHS basketball. This is one that I needed clarification on. I think I have all the other 7673 rules down pat as I know the rest of you veteran officials do. I simply used my late father's log in and password to obtain much needed information. I really appreciate the assistance. The 2007 date has little if anything to relate to my question or answer.

I only have 7660 rules down pat, I have trouble with the other 13.

#olderthanilook

I like to use the term "sub varsity" for anything that isn't a varsity contest.

JRutledge

#olderthanilook wrote
I like to use the term "sub varsity" for anything that isn't a varsity contest.

I usually say anything that is not varsity "lower level." But if I am assigned a game or observing an official we often refer to the actual level like "freshman B game."

Peace

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onetime1 wrote
Sorry I am 17 and just starting to learn the many rules of NFHS basketball. This is one that I needed clarification on. I think I have all the other 7673 rules down pat as I know the rest of you veteran officials do. I simply used my late father's log in and password to obtain much needed information. I really appreciate the assistance. The 2007 date has little if anything to relate to my question or answer.

I'm sorry to hear your father passed away. Let us know if there is anything else we can help you with!

#olderthanilook

JRutledge wrote
I usually say anything that is not varsity "lower level." But if I am assigned a game or observing an official we often refer to the actual level like "freshman B game."

Peace

I do not give a damn! 😀

JRutledge

#olderthanilook wrote
I do not give a damn! 😃

Didn't ask and certainly do not give a damn if you did. 😉

Peace

SD Referee

onetime1 wrote
How about if an illegal screen happens on a throw in? Do you shoot the bonus then?

Really? We have officials out there that don't know this? I know this is my first post, but I felt compelled as it says you have been a member since 2007 and you still don't know this?

SD Referee

Kansas Ref wrote
*wow, that is quite a 'fast-track'! Beginners here get 8th grade boys and girls games; maybe a freshman game in late Jan/February.

Where I'm from, you can jump right in and do varsity contests in year one if somebody wants you to do it.

BlueDevilRef

SD Referee wrote
Really? We have officials out there that don't know this? I know this is my first post, but I felt compelled as it says you have been a member since 2007 and you still don't know this?

Read the entire thread before posting dude. The kid explained all of this within the thread

I wish I had a cool signature

SD Referee

BlueDevilRef wrote
Read the entire thread before posting dude. The kid explained all of this within the thread

I wish I had a cool signature

Yes I feel quite bad if that is true. Should read the whole thing before posting. Not sure I believe it, but if it's true then I have sympathy for the kid. I will gladly help answer any of his future questions.

Happy to be here and join in on the conversations!

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