NCAA fashion police?

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

You're reaction and approach to this coach doesn't sit well with me.

Please elaborate.

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Please elaborate.

You could have avoided all that talk with the coach by simply asking for a sub until the issue is corrected. The way you spoke to the coach sounds very aggressive and confrontational and does not sound professional IMO. Especially the part about not letting his girl play later in the season and spreading the news around to watch out for this girl.

Control what YOU can control and do it the right way, you are not there to act like the coach's parent.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Dad

I'm just going to consider this a troll.

So where do you fit?

Stand up and be counted.

Enforce? Not Enforce? Misunderstand? Ignore?

Have I covered all the bases?

Please don't make me start a poll thread.

"We have met the enemy and he is us." (Pogo, Walt Kelly, 1971)

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

So where do you fit?

Stand up and be counted.

Enforce? Not Enforce? Misunderstand? Ignore?

Have I covered all the bases?

Please don't make me start a poll thread.

"We have met the enemy and he is us." (Pogo, Walt Kelly, 1971)

I enforce the rules when I'm the official on the game.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Dad

I enforce the rules when I'm the official on the game.

Excellent. I may have misunderstood one of your earlier posts. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I asked him why it was that we are half way through the season and we still have girls wearing illegal undershirts. His response was, "Because none of the officials have done anything about it."

Originally Posted by Dad

I see absolutely nothing wrong with the coach's line of thinking.

I may have been confused because the coach was also a basketball official.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by AremRed

You could have avoided all that talk with the coach by simply asking for a sub until the issue is corrected. The way you spoke to the coach sounds very aggressive and confrontational and does not sound professional IMO. Especially the part about not letting his girl play later in the season and spreading the news around to watch out for this girl.

Control what YOU can control and do it the right way, you are not there to act like the coach's parent.

This sums up my reasoning pretty well. You seemed to take it personally that he allowed someone on his team to have the wrong color undershirt. J

The idea of 'spreading the word' also makes it sound like you want to punish him further. Just enforce the rule and move on.

If I know a coach is also a referee, they get no different treatment from me when I officiate their game. No additional conversation with them during the game, the leash for technical fouls is exactly the same as any other coach, and I do not discuss plays from a previous game with them.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Excellent. I may have misunderstood one of your earlier posts. Sorry.





I may have been confused because the coach was also a basketball official.

Yes, he is also a basketball official, but not in the context of that game. He is a coach and should be treated as one. He should be treated the exact same as any other coach in the league.

[BlueDevilRef]

Update----I got to be the bad guy again today.

BDR (me)-coach, home team can only have white undershirts and all sleeves/tights have to be same color.
Coach-"really??? (Sarcastically), why has nobody said anything and why hasn't it mattered before??
BDR-coach, I don't know but it matters today, please deal with it before your team continues warming up.

I am sick of hearing this exact convo at every junior high game. Ugh.


I wish I had a cool signature

[constable]

Originally Posted by deecee

Sadly at the college level the fashion police is not as high a priority as we make it here on the HS level.

Sadly? We spend more time worrying about uniform rules than we do learning how to call our balls and strikes. I see new officials who don't know what a pivot foot is but they can tell you what the logo restrictions are.

We don't have our priorities straight.

[walt]

Originally Posted by jetmetfan

oh really? I can't speak for ncaam but watch an ncaaw game and see if that's the case. To say our sre is vigilant about uniform rules would be an understatement.

+1

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by constable

We spend more time worrying about uniform rules than we do learning how to call our balls and strikes. I see new officials who don't know what a pivot foot is but they can tell you what the logo restrictions are. We don't have our priorities straight.

We have a few of those guys. We also have some guys who can call the heck out of pivot feet, block charges, etc., but either misunderstand, or don't care to enforce the fashion standards.

Luckily we have a ton of guys that can do both. That's the high priority that we should all be striving for.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We have a few of those guys. We also have some guys who can call the heck out of pivot feet, block charges, etc., but either misunderstand, or don't care to enforce the fashion standards.

Luckily we have a ton of guys that can do both. That's the high priority that we should all be striving for.

I only need one of three to know the fashion crap. I need all three to be good playcallers.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

I only need one of three to know the fashion crap. I need all three to be good playcallers.

Connecticut prep schools (varsity only) use a shot clock. I'm a 100% NFHS guy, so I always pray that my partner will be a college guy.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Connecticut prep schools (varsity only) use a shot clock. I'm a 100% NFHS guy, so I always pray that my partner will be a college guy.

If Connecticut prep schools use shot clocks, and you officiate Connecticut prep school, then you need to be 100% an official who knows the pertinent rules.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If Connecticut prep schools use shot clocks, and you officiate Connecticut prep school, then you need to be 100% an official who knows the pertinent rules.

I only get two, or three, varsity prep school games (only eight such schools in our local area) a year. My local interpreter makes available a handout on prep school rule differences (NCAA/NFHS hybrid), including a short synopsis of shot clock rules. I just downloaded and read through the handout yesterday knowing that I have a varsity prep school game next week. I keep the laminated handout (with a short synopsis of shot clock rules) in my bag and make it part of every varsity prep school pregame conference. I sleep well at night knowing that I've done enough to make me a pretty good prep school official.

However, I've been officiating with NFHS rules for thirty-five years (thousands of games) and I'm still stymied by a few of the rules, and interpretations, so it shouldn't surprise anyone that I'm occasionally stymied by NCAA rules, especially shot clock rules.

And it doesn't help that there's usually a poorly trained kid at the table, usually pulled out of the bleachers, working the shot clock that knows less about shot clock rules than a tree stump.

I feel that I've done my job preparing for such games, but it's still great to get an NCAA partner to confidently deal with the shot clock problems that often arise.