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deecee Thu Dec 03, 2015 02:54pm

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Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 971532)
How is there illegality to a specific player when contact occurs 'in the middle', where two players meet as their paths cross?

Doesn't dislodging an opponent infer that the opponent was maintaining a specific spot on the floor, hence not moving?

If that's how you see things then you never have an illegal screen in any of your games. A player could be moving and gets shoved therefore dislodging him from his legally obtained path.

bob jenkins Thu Dec 03, 2015 03:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 971532)
How is there illegality to a specific player when contact occurs 'in the middle', where two players meet as their paths cross?

Doesn't dislodging an opponent infer that the opponent was maintaining a specific spot on the floor, hence not moving?


That's why we get paid the big bucks.

Really -- you continue to argue against (almost) all the opinions here. There's a lesson to be learned.

Raymond Thu Dec 03, 2015 04:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 971532)
How is there illegality to a specific player when contact occurs 'in the middle', where two players meet as their paths cross?

Doesn't dislodging an opponent infer that the opponent was maintaining a specific spot on the floor, hence not moving?

This is Division 1 basketball, A1 & A2 didn't just randomly take the same course. There was a screen intended by A1. A1 & A2 executed it poorly and A1 decided to hang on to ball and throw up some shot in hopes of fooling the ref. It didn't work. There is a reason the dribble hand-on is in our preseason video and why you see offensive fouls being called more often.

And A1 wasn't dislodged, he threw his shoulder into B2 at the start of his spin. You supposedly have no opinion as to whether the call was correct or not, but all I see is you typing how A1 didn't commit a foul. So you do have an opinion, and it's an opinion in the very miniscule minority.

Refhoop Thu Dec 03, 2015 06:03pm

Excellent call!
Taking this type of dribble hand-off out of basketball is a good thing. That defender was defenseless and either of them could have been injured.
I think all of the rules are to teach the players to begin avoiding more contact rather than "hunting for more contact".

Slight tangent: Did anyone else notice how the WC was trying to grab the ball when its was being tossed to the new T.
Q. What if W-coach had successfully secured that tossed ball before the spot throw-in toward the end of that video - should they whack him?

WhistlesAndStripes Thu Dec 03, 2015 06:47pm

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Originally Posted by Refhoop (Post 971567)
Slight tangent: Did anyone else notice how the WC was trying to grab the ball when its was being tossed to the new T.
Q. What if W-coach had successfully secured that tossed ball before the spot throw-in toward the end of that video - should they whack him?

I saw that as well, although in my opinion, the coach was simply trying to help catch the ball, hand it right to the official and let the ball be put in play.

If, however, the coach catches that ball, and continues his rant, he definitely deserves to get whacked.

OKREF Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:09pm

I think that's a really good. Dixon certainly could have gotten a T.

Dad Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Refhoop (Post 971567)
Excellent call!
Taking this type of dribble hand-off out of basketball is a good thing. That defender was defenseless and either of them could have been injured.
I think all of the rules are to teach the players to begin avoiding more contact rather than "hunting for more contact".

Slight tangent: Did anyone else notice how the WC was trying to grab the ball when its was being tossed to the new T.
Q. What if W-coach had successfully secured that tossed ball before the spot throw-in toward the end of that video - should they whack him?

Never giving coach a tech here unless I at least say, "Coach, ball."


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