intentional foul
 

Kid shoots a shot while the ball is in the air, the horn sounds to end the 2nd qtr, before the kid lands the defender intentional fouls the shooter. So no time left, we shoot 2 freethrows, how do we start the 3 qtr???? With the AP arrow or that intentional throw in

AP throw-in. See 5-6-2 EXCEPTIONS

Read 5-6 EXCEPTIONS 4., governing technical fouls, which isn't relevant because there was no technical foul, and, since the shooter was still airborne, the ball was not yet dead when the intentional foul happened.

Then read 5-6 EXCEPTIONS 3., the middle sentence. "No penalty or part of a penalty carries over from one quarter or exra period to the next..." That's your sitch.

This was an intentional foul; it happened while the ball was still live. Therefore the foul and its enforcement belongs to the 2nd qtr.

Had the foul happened when the ball was dead, if it needed to be called, it would have been a technical foul and the shots and resulting throw-in would have belonged to the 3rd. quarter.

Right?
Something tells me there's a better way to explain the correct answer.

This is my favorite part of the post:

Kid shoots a shot while the ball is in the air

Nope, you did well. The only note I would add is that, though unlikely on a mid- or long-range shot, it is possible the ball could become dead before the airborne shooter is fouled. If so, the foul is still personal (intentionally personal in this case) and, I believe, therefore penalized as part of the 2nd quarter. Esteemed forum....am I correct?


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It's not unlikely; it's impossible.

Wasn't there to see how bad the foul was, but if it was premeditated I'm probably just letting the kid sit for the rest of the night.

Clocking airborne shooters is a big no-no if it's on purpose.

Dad, perhaps you could share your vast knowledge and experience and teach/coach how to properly explain a situation. Then we could all properly assist a fellow official. In your haste to mock, you missed the part of the writers name: "The Rookie".

Remember, we are all on the same team and these posts should be helpful, not a place for you to display your lack couth. ;)

The Rookie has been posting for over 5 years. His name should no longer match his status.

Touche'

Point taken. Still read it four times trying to figure out if there was a deeper meaning. :p

Not impossible. Just increasingly unlikely the further out the shot is.

Unless you're throwing the basketball like a baseball at the rim, I don't think it's physically possible. :confused:

A five foot hopper could easily go through before a shooter lands.

True.

Personally I wouldn't consider that anywhere near a mid-long range shot.

Me neither, but the OP wasn't that specific. :) I see that your response was to a post that was that specific. :)

I don't know the precise distance but I'm guessing that, if it is possible at 5, that is about as far as it would be possible. But I think 5 is probably stretching it for most players unless the shot is really flat.

I'll agree that the OP wasn't real grammatically clear, but it's not that difficult to parse:

1. Kid shoots a shot.

2. While the ball is in the air, the horn sounds to end the 2nd quarter.

3. Before the shooter returns to the floor the defender commits an intentional foul against the shooter.

There is no mention of whether the try was successful, and in fact whether or not it was successful is irrelevant for the purposes of the question asked, which was how to administer the throw in to start the 3rd quarter.

A big takeaway from this also is that the horn doesn't make the ball dead. Knowing when a ball is defined as live versus dead solves a lot of issues during games.

Good point.

As a note, remember the shooter still gets two free throws even if the shot went in. Saw this mucked up during scrims.

There is one case where it matters whether the shot went in, but the OP does not indicate this is it.