Quarter Throw-in Spot
 

Where is the 'exact' designation for the throw-in to start a new quarter?

That line that dissects the court in two.

And opposite the table.

7-5-6

Designated out-of-bounds spot throw-in at the division line opposite the scorer's and timer's table:

b. For an alternating-possession throw-in to start the second, third and fourth quarters, any player from the team with the possession arrow shall make the throw-in.

also at 6-4-2. live ball dead ball rule.

*I like position my throw-in player (A1) at a point that is one step into their frontcourt area from the division line. Also, I usually just hand the ball to the thrower-in and step away-- instead of bouncing it to them--due to the fact that I'd hate to see them fumble bumble a bounce pass which would cause me to have to stop and re-do the whole affair.

Why do you want them 1 step into the FC, for what purpose?

So you NEVER administer with a bounce on any throw-in?

I bounce wherever the manual allows us to. Definitely on a midcourt throw-in so I can get a few steps into the BC.

Same here.

I was just asking KansasRef if he ever does it ... because it sounds like he never does.

I'm kind of a stickler for the "exact" spot the OP refers to, even though "at the division line" isn't more accurately defined. I try to get the thrower to straddle the DL extended (evaluators pick up on little things like this). But......if they move a step or two one way or the other, I'm also not going to delay putting the ball in play. This is low on my totem pole of pet peeves.


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Since the division line should be two inches wide and the designated spot is 3-feet in width, the thrower actually has 17 inches on each side of the division line.

No Totem Pole Reference Here
 

Got that.
What should rise to the level of pet peevish is when the all-too-casual official just allows the player to stand just anywhere over there (quite wide of the dimension over which the player must have "a foot on or over"), and in doing so takes the advantage of the relative location of the division line away from a pressing defense and an unsuspecting player who catches the throw-in and get him/herself trapped up against it.
It just isn't that hard to point to the "spot" and make the player at least start there.

Mechanics Based on "I Like to..."???
 

If this had a "Like" button, I would not click on it.
:(

Old Dog, Old Tricks ...
 

I'm definitely old fashioned, having officiated for thirty-five years.

With rare exceptions, the only time that one will see me bounce the ball to an inbounding player is on a run-the-back-endline throwin.

If I believe that bouncing the ball to the inbounder will help me to better see an anticipated play, I will bounce it, but this will be few times, and far between.

I'm so used to doing it the old way that, as the lead, in a two person game, I will hesitate to bounce the ball to an inbounder on a sideline throwin below the free throw line extended.

I doubt that there is anyone on this Forum that bounces the ball less than me. I know that I'm in the minority, and I probably should be bouncing more, but it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

What does IAABO tell you to do?

Throw In Designation
 

Thanks guys.....I get all of that. What I was looking for is our crew, always gives the ball to the thrower, one step into their new backcourt. Should we be right on the line, 1/2 and 1/2 theoretically? How are most crews administering this?

Bounce When You Can, Hand When You Must ...
 

All frontcourt endline throwins must be handed to the inbounder.

All other throwins are optional, it's up to the official to decide whether to hand the ball, or bounce the ball, to the inbounder, depending on the circumstances.

Let's Go to the Book
 

Rather than mechanics by consensus, wouldn't it be better to ask what the NFHS or the IAABO or your state expects?
Whereas I'd be interested in the last two codes, for states that have adopted NFHS Officials' Manual mechanics, here's what it says:

> "The throw-in to start to the second, third and fourth quarters shall be administered by the Referee at the division line opposite the table."

I have never seen anywhere this "one step" toward the backcourt or toward the frontcourt specified. And if you start them out there, if/when they keep their one foot on or over the 36" area and end up 2 steps or more away from the division line do you call a violation?

Just point so they straddle the division line. Easy. Nuff said. Right?

As to the method of administration . . .

Whereas I'd be interested in what the IAABO and others' states specify, the NFHS book says, "When administering throw-ins on the frontcourt end line the ball shall be handed to the thrower." And again, "The Lead shall hand the ball to the thrower when remaining in the frontcourt." And, "When administering throw-ins on the sideline, a bounce pass is recommended."

Couple of examples for analysis and discussion:
How Could Handing the Ball to the Thrower Be Correct Here?
What Advantage Does Bouncing the Ball to the Thrower Provide Here?

At the Division Line
 

Though this only takes place usually three times per game, I contend that casuality of this nature deprives the defense from using the division line to their advantage when an unsuspecting receiver of the throw-in gets trapped against it in the frontcourt.
A savvy coach may want this advantage.

At the Division Line???

*Attended a clinic this 3 summers ago where clinician was telling us to hand off the ball to throw-in player--clinician had reported on seeing players fumble bumble the ball. I have seen other refs bounce the ball to sideline thrower and I've seen other refs hand it off, and I've read in the NFHS manual that a bounce pass to thrower on sideline is suggested--but not required procedure. Alas, this seems like each refs preference on what to do.

But what about that thing where you have the thrower in the front court instead of straddling the division line?

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I ALWAYS hand the ball when under the baseline, and bounce when on the sideline.

So everyone here makes the thrower straddle the line? In my personal experience I've seen about 60 percent of refs put the thrower slightly in the Frontcourt, about 30 percent in the Backcourt, and less than 10 percent actually straddle the line.

*well like I said in my post earlier--I do administer such throw-ins by positioning A1 one step into the Front court. I was unaware that I was in the majority of refs who did it in this fashion--until you cited your observational statistics.

Shaky Foundation
 

As long as the designated spot is at the division line, as prescribed.

BTW, observational evidence is a tenuous basis for what mechanics to follow. Seven years ago around here, 98% ballwatched outside their PCA all the time, 95% called "On the Floor!" when act of shooting had already begun, 92% of Trails stood just inside the division line and bailed before the shot was released, 89% refused to call 5-seconds closely guarded cuz it was a "game stopper", and 86% . . ..
Now very few do those things.
Wrong is still wrong, even though the majority does it. Right is still right, even though only the minority does it.

Now, back to things that take place more than 3 times per game... ;)

I'm trying to find an intelligent or logical reason not to have them start at the division line. Why would an official purposely put the throw in in the back or the front court?

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I point at the spot, tell the thrower-in that I'm going to bounce it to him/her, then back out and bounce the ball with two hands.

In other words, I have no idea where the thrower-in is standing, nor do I care as long as it's at my designated spot.

I once worked in a high school associated that mandated the official ALWAYS hand the ball to the thrower in. No bounce passes were allowed, per association mechanic. There were no exceptions to this mechanic and it was one of the most non-nonsensical things I'd ever seen.

IAABO Mechanics ...
 

IAAABO Mechanics Manual

Throwin:

E. Throwin administration
1. Administering official shall visually "sweep the floor"
h. hand or bounce ball to thrower
Exception: on all frontcourt endline throwins the ball shall be handed to the thrower

G. Crew of two throwin
1. Administering official may hand ball to throwerin
2. Administering official may bounce the ball to throwerin
Exception: Ball handed to throwerin for frontcourt endline throwins
3. Lead as administering official
c. may bounce ball to thrower for sideline throwin below free throw line extended
Exception: if fans or bench personnel create congestion or there is defensive pressure, the ball shale be handed to the throwerin ...

I have the Thrower straddle the Division Line extended and before handing him or her the ball, I tell him or her to click his or her heels together three times and say: "There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home." :D And I think of Mom every time, :).

Rock Chalk Jay Hawk, Kaaaaaaay Youuuuuu!!!

MTD, Sr.

And as everybody can see, IAABO, NFHS, and NCAA Men's/Women's mechanics are the same.

MTD, Sr.

If they're within a foot or so of the division line, off we go. I don't care if they're slightly in the frontcourt, straddling, or slightly in the backcourt.

So, if you observed me over 100 throwins, you might get those statistics just from me.

If the clinician tells you to do it, do it during the clinic and for any games where he or she has any control over your schedule. Now that I've stated the obvious.

I honestly can't remember a player above grade school fumbling a throw-in bounce from me. If they're not paying attention to the point where they are going to fumble a soft bounce pass, they're nearly as likely to fumble the hand-off.

Exactly. I only move them if they're clearly out of throw in spot.