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Raymond Mon Nov 09, 2015 08:05am

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 969335)
Good for him. Maybe you should follow his lead and admit that you were wrong.


The case play cited had nothing to with Geof's confusion about a BC violation subsequent to a throw-in. Have you acknowledge that yet?

SC Official Mon Nov 09, 2015 09:02am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 969344)
The case play cited had nothing to with Geof's confusion about a BC violation subsequent to a throw-in. Have you acknowledge that yet?

Correct. It has everything to do with Rut's blanket statement. And we are still here because Rut said that case play "did not go with the rules," and I responded. If it had nothing to do with Geof's confusion, then he never should have posted an erroneous opinion to further add to the confusion.

It's not that complicated.

Good day.

JRutledge Mon Nov 09, 2015 09:03am

Keep fighting the good fight.

Peace

Raymond Mon Nov 09, 2015 09:13am

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 969346)
Correct. It has everything to do with Rut's blanket statement. And we are still here because Rut said that case play "did not go with the rules," and I responded. If it had nothing to do with Geof's confusion, then he never should have posted an erroneous opinion to further add to the confusion.

It's not that complicated.

Good day.

Did you ever assist Geof in pointing out not to use the case play cited as a basis to rule on the play he was questioning?

Did you ever point out, for the benefit of newer officials, what the proper scenarios would be for adjudicating the BC rule per the case play cited by OKREF?

If I were just to follow your posts on the subject, I would not learn anything about the practical applications of the BC rule. At least with Jeff, I would know throw-in situations are not covered by that case play.

Scrapper1 Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:43pm

Holy crap, I forgot how much I loved this forum. LOL!!!

Where's Mark Dexter with the popcorn gif??

SC Official Mon Nov 09, 2015 01:06pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 969349)
Did you ever assist Geof in pointing out not to use the case play cited as a basis to rule on the play he was questioning?

Did you ever point out, for the benefit of newer officials, what the proper scenarios would be for adjudicating the BC rule per the case play cited by OKREF?

If I were just to follow your posts on the subject, I would not learn anything about the practical applications of the BC rule. At least with Jeff, I would know throw-in situations are not covered by that case play.

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. Did you do any of these things either?

Raymond Mon Nov 09, 2015 01:41pm

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 969377)
I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. Did you do any of these things either?

Yeah, I did, several times. In fact, I think I was the first one to answer Geof to point out where his disconnect was and he thanked me. I have responded a couple times to OKREF with example plays.

Have you read other responses, or just Jeff's?

SC Official Mon Nov 09, 2015 02:19pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 969381)
Yeah, I did, several times. In fact, I think I was the first one to answer Geof to point out where his disconnect was and he thanked me. I have responded a couple times to OKREF with example plays.

Have you read other responses, or just Jeff's?

Yep.

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 969048)
Yes, that is the case. The rule is an absolute mess, but it is what it is. Until team control has been established on the playing court (a player holding or dribbling a live ball), a BC violation is not possible.


Gutierrez7 Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:07am

Great commentary on the most misunderstood rules.

Perhaps you could add the ridiculous comments from players; coaches; fans that precede their lack of knowledge. Now that would be funny.

"Keep your mouth shut and I will guess; open your mouth and I will know!"

Thanks again.


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