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Freddy Sun Oct 18, 2015 02:29pm

A Merited T . . . or Not?
 
A Sunday Afternoon Diversion from Football . . .
Any valid reason, by rule, that a T could have been given here?
Possible T?

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Rule reference or quotation required if responding.

Matt S. Sun Oct 18, 2015 04:09pm

For what?
 
I see nothing that warrants a technical foul.

Raymond Sun Oct 18, 2015 04:55pm

You must have posted the wrong video. I see a blue player help an opponent up, blue #10 & #24 try to claim they committed the foul, the real culprit receive his 5th foul, the coach promptly replace the disqualified player, a free throw made, teammates dap up the free throw shooters, and all the players back along the lane line in time for the 2nd free throw.

#24 was involved in the play, it's not like he walked in from the 3-point line to claim he committed a foul that occurred under the basket.

ODog Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:18am

I'm gonna guess the question is related to #24 walking around with the ball for 10 seconds as part of his "I committed the foul" charade instead of immediately giving it to the nearest official, but ... no is still the answer, based on the information we have here at least.

AremRed Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 968120)
Rule reference or quotation required if responding.

If you are considering a 10-3-6-f tech here Freddo I'd stay away.

Also don't call the 10-3-5-b or 10-1-5-d techs either.

AremRed Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 968124)
You must have posted the wrong video. I see a player blue player helped an opponent up, blue #10 & #24 try to claim they committed the foul, the real culprit receive his 5th foul, the coach promptly replace the disqualified player, a free throw made, teammates dap up the free throw shooters, and all the players back along the lane line in time for the 2nd free throw.

I also see Lead calling across the lane in C's primary, the Lead count the bucket initially only to wave it off at the table, the Lead leaving the area of the foul with players still on the ground, Trail not paying attention to the player on the ground, the calling official walking while reporting, poor communication regarding the number of free throws, the calling official going opposite the table after reporting, and the official administering the FT's not going to the correct spot.

kstiles99 Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:40am

I hear some group of people (cheerleaders?) screaming when the ball is released on the free throw.. by rule, that's a T but I'd stay away from it here.

BillyMac Mon Oct 19, 2015 05:52am

Citation ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kstiles99 (Post 968138)
I hear some group of people (cheerleaders?) screaming when the ball is released on the free throw.. by rule, that's a T...

Technical foul on the cheerleaders, or fans? Which rule?

Also, disconcertion (not a technical foul, it's a delayed violation), by cheerleaders, or fans? Which rule?

Hugh Refner Mon Oct 19, 2015 09:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstiles99 (Post 968138)
I hear some group of people (cheerleaders?) screaming when the ball is released on the free throw.. by rule, that's a T but I'd stay away from it here.

The cheerleaders shown along the end line don't move during the FT shot and they "celebrate" when the shot goes in, so it's my guess they represent the shooter's team, so it's probably not them screaming when the ball is released.

APG Mon Oct 19, 2015 09:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstiles99 (Post 968138)
I hear some group of people (cheerleaders?) screaming when the ball is released on the free throw.. by rule, that's a T but I'd stay away from it here.

Citation needed

SC Official Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:29am

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing on this video.
Quote:

Originally Posted by kstiles99 (Post 968138)
I hear some group of people (cheerleaders?) screaming when the ball is released on the free throw.. by rule, that's a T but I'd stay away from it here.

In what world or ruleset?

walt Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:45am

I have nothing on this play. What action(s) are you asking about in regard to the possible "T"?

Camron Rust Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstiles99 (Post 968138)
I hear some group of people (cheerleaders?) screaming when the ball is released on the free throw.. by rule, that's a T but I'd stay away from it here.

I guess I need to get some new books because that one isn't in mine.

Freddy Fri Oct 23, 2015 07:11am

What I was Aiming For
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walt (Post 968163)
I have nothing on this play. What action(s) are you asking about in regard to the possible "T"?

Was merely trying to evoke discussion of Rule 10-3-6-f and whether it at all applies to the player begging to be credited for a foul he obviously didn't commit.
Not saying I'd call a T on it. Was just interested in engaging in a discussion of that rare situation.

jpgc99 Fri Oct 23, 2015 07:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 968380)
Was merely trying to evoke discussion of Rule 10-3-6-f and whether it at all applies to the player begging to be credited for a foul he obviously didn't commit.
Not saying I'd call a T on it. Was just interested in engaging in a discussion of that rare situation.

No T.


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