Made Shot, No Foul. Missed Shot, Foul.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Geof

I went to several camps this summer and it seems that as the level of basketball increases, the concepts behind what constitutes a foul slightly change. Whereas Refereeing 101 says "if you see illegal contact, its a foul," Refeering 201 says something like "if you see contact, depending on the severity of the contact and the outcome of the play, it may or may not be a foul."

If that's really what they said, you need to find new camps.

My guess, however, is that they really said:

Whereas Refereeing 101 says "if you see illegal contact, its a foul," Refeering 201 says something like "if you see contact, depending on the severity of the contact and the effect on the player outcome of the play, it may or may not be illegal contact and thus a foul."

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If that's really what they said, you need to find new camps.

My guess, however, is that they really said:

Whereas Refereeing 101 says "if you see illegal contact, its a foul," Refeering 201 says something like "if you see contact, depending on the severity of the contact and the effect on the player outcome of the play, it may or may not be illegal contact and thus a foul."

If this comment had a "Like" button I would click on it.

[deecee]

I hate it when I would hear an evaluator says that you shouldn't have an 'and 1' or that if the shot goes in then there is no foul. Stupid way of thinking that has more holes than swiss cheese. If you feel a foul should be called then call it. There is allowances in the rules for what happens when there is a foul on a shot and the ball goes in. There is no allowances for there cannot be a foul *if* the ball goes in.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by deecee

I hate it when I would hear an evaluator says that you shouldn't have an 'and 1' or that if the shot goes in then there is no foul. Stupid way of thinking that has more holes than swiss cheese. If you feel a foul should be called then call it. There is allowances in the rules for what happens when there is a foul on a shot and the ball goes in. There is no allowances for there cannot be a foul *if* the ball goes in.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

How can you say that. If you watch high level college games and NBA games, you'll see that the top guys never call a foul if the ball goes in and there really is no such thing as three point play from inside the arc . . . oh, wait . . . they happen all the time every game . . . never mind . . .