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Welpe Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:05am

You make the call NLCS Game 1 - Balk? (Video)
 
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Here's a link to the video also:

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/6479266/v36795853/

What say you?

UMP45 Sun Oct 12, 2014 08:43am

Yeah it's probably a balk. Why wasn't it called? Don't know and don't care. It happens. How many times have we seen a balk, not call it, and go Oh crap. That was a balk!

JR12 Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:33pm

!Balk

Rich Ives Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:07pm

I'm not one of the MLB umps umpiring that game. I don't get a vote.

They interviewed the pitcher on Fox tonight and he said he did.

AremRed Mon Oct 13, 2014 07:05pm

Is this the PU's call or can any umpire call it?

bob jenkins Mon Oct 13, 2014 07:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 941590)
Is this the PU's call or can any umpire call it?

Any (but it would be wierd for UL or UR to get it -- and honestly, I don't ewven know if they use 6 umps in this round or not)

umpjim Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 941594)
Any (but it would be wierd for UL or UR to get it -- and honestly, I don't ewven know if they use 6 umps in this round or not)

I'm gonna be ready when and if I do six man.

Rich Tue Oct 14, 2014 08:38am

Just like calling a false start as a deep wing -- it's not going to ever happen.

zebra2955 Tue Oct 14, 2014 02:13pm

Isn't that Joe West at second?

If so I thought he never missed balk he could get

LOL

AremRed Tue Oct 14, 2014 08:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 941594)
Any (but it would be wierd for UL or UR to get it -- and honestly, I don't ewven know if they use 6 umps in this round or not)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zebra2955 (Post 941667)
Isn't that Joe West at second?

If so I thought he never missed balk he could get

LOL

So with 4 quality umpires watching this and passing, can we assume this is not a balk?

Matt Tue Oct 14, 2014 09:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 941692)
So with 4 quality umpires watching this and passing, can we assume this is not a balk?

No.

bob jenkins Wed Oct 15, 2014 07:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 941692)
So with 4 quality umpires watching this and passing, can we assume this is not a balk?

I don't think that's a logical conclusion. :shrug:

MDUmp Wed Oct 15, 2014 03:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by zebra2955 (Post 941667)
Isn't that Joe West at second?

If so I thought he never missed balk he could get

LOL

No, West is busy doing the ALCS.

Robert E. Harrison Thu Oct 16, 2014 09:35am

Before the set position?
 
Could this have been passed on by the crew due the recent allowance of multiple steps by the non-pivot foot? I have noticed a lot of pitchers while obtaining the stretch/set position place the non-pivot foot on the ground multiple times before the stop. I am much more lenient about the pitcher's movement before the stop than I am afterwards.

jicecone Thu Oct 16, 2014 08:39pm

I have seen a lot less movement called however, I think the fact that he did step off may have contributed to the non-call.

But, if I was doing the game, I would have called it. :D:D

soundedlikeastrike Sat Oct 18, 2014 05:20pm

I find that one pretty funny, you can hear and see everybody in the world thinking "hey that was something".. Even F1..
But really, I think they got it right. He didn't lift the foot (but couldn't have come any closer), part his hands, start the shoulders, hips related to starting his delivery.

Just flexed the front knee as he started his step off. Technically anyway.

IMO the knees are the worst place to look for a balk as it does something regardless of PO, step off and delivery. So looking at everything, else I don't see a balk.

Matt Sat Oct 18, 2014 06:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike (Post 941851)
I find that one pretty funny, you can hear and see everybody in the world thinking "hey that was something".. Even F1..
But really, I think they got it right. He didn't lift the foot (but couldn't have come any closer), part his hands, start the shoulders, hips related to starting his delivery.

Just flexed the front knee as he started his step off. Technically anyway.

IMO the knees are the worst place to look for a balk as it does something regardless of PO, step off and delivery. So looking at everything, else I don't see a balk.

That would make it a balk.

soundedlikeastrike Mon Oct 20, 2014 08:04am

If that's a balk, then every PO or step off is a balk.
So call the balk here, and what is your explanation of the violation?

bob jenkins Mon Oct 20, 2014 08:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike (Post 941949)
If that's a balk, then every PO or step off is a balk.
So call the balk here, and what is your explanation of the violation?

Started his motion and didn't complete the pitch.

Forest Ump Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike (Post 941949)
If that's a balk, then every PO or step off is a balk.
So call the balk here, and what is your explanation of the violation?

Started and stopped. (three words)

Matt Mon Oct 20, 2014 02:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike (Post 941949)
If that's a balk, then every PO or step off is a balk.

Every disengagement that moves the non-pivot knee before the pivot foot is a balk.


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