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Brblueump44 Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:13am

Suicide sqeeze gone bad
 
Never had this happen like Im about to explain.

Less than 2 outs, runners on 1st and 3d. Runner on 3d breaks for home early, pitcher (from the set position) steps off of mound with pivot foot. Pitcher then steps towards home plate attempting a throw to the catcher to put out the runner. The ball arrives at home plate, the batter deliberately bunts the ball as if its a pitch.

What do you have? I call the runner out, putting the batter back in the box.

bob jenkins Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:26am

BI -- good call.

I know it's in the FED case book, might also be in NCAA and OBR interps specifically. Even if it's not, it's the right call.

Manny A Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brblueump44 (Post 937802)
Runner on 3d breaks for home early, pitcher (from the set position) steps off of mound with pivot foot.

To be clear, the pitcher must disengage the rubber by stepping back with his pivot foot. I'm sure that's what you meant to say... :)

MD Longhorn Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:31pm

This is the example of the trivia question... how can you complete an inning on just 1 pitch?

Answer: first pitch hit for a triple.
Batter in the box, R1 steals, pitcher steps off and fires home, batter hits the ball.

Int on the batter, Runner back to third. Repeat twice. 3 outs, 1 pitch.

MD Longhorn Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:33pm

PS - is this trivia question wrong - i see you saying the runner is out, not the batter. Don't have the books here.

Brblueump44 Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:55pm

And yes the pitcher stepped back behind the mound to disengage.

Im over-thinking this Im sure but with less than 2 outs, can you get a double play calling the runner and the batter out?

Lets say the ball thrown to the plate was going to be caught by the catcher and the runner easily tagged out, until the batter interfered.

Can you assume the runner was going to be tagged out with a good throw (which it was or it couldn't have been bunted) AND get the batter out because he's the one who interfered?

Rich Tue Jul 15, 2014 01:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 937814)
PS - is this trivia question wrong - i see you saying the runner is out, not the batter. Don't have the books here.

If a batter interferes with a play at the plate, R3 is out with less than two outs and the batter is out with 2 outs.

bob jenkins Tue Jul 15, 2014 01:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brblueump44 (Post 937817)
Im over-thinking this Im sure but with less than 2 outs, can you get a double play calling the runner and the batter out?

You can, but only if you have a coach who doesn't know the rules. ;)

(it's only one out)

Brblueump44 Tue Jul 15, 2014 01:39pm

Good one!

MD Longhorn Tue Jul 15, 2014 01:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 937819)
If a batter interferes with a play at the plate, R3 is out with less than two outs and the batter is out with 2 outs.

I'm pretty sure I knew that. This "trivia question" precedes my umpiring. Striking to me that while I've told it a hundred times AFTER beginning umpiring, it didn't occur to me that it's been wrong all along. That's a bit embarrassing. :)

DG Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:40pm

Another trivia.

How can defense get three outs on a single batted ball without touching the ball?

bob jenkins Wed Jul 16, 2014 08:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG (Post 937848)
Another trivia.

How can defense get three outs on a single batted ball without touching the ball?

FED case 8.4.2G is one way.

there are multiple ways.

DG Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 937858)
FED case 8.4.2G is one way.

there are multiple ways.

This was the one I had in mind. Tease us if you know others..

bwburke94 Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:54pm

1st and 2nd, 0 outs, batter hits infield fly for out #1. Runner from 1st passes runner from second for out #2. Runner from 2nd hit by ball for out #3.

bob jenkins Thu Jul 17, 2014 07:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG (Post 937918)
This was the one I had in mind. Tease us if you know others..

Bases loaded. Ball hit over the fence. R2 passes R3. R1 passes R2. BR passes R1.

All runners run in reverse "to make a travesty of the game"

While the pitcher is in a position ready to pitch, B1 switches batter's boxes while simultaneously R3 and R2 attempt to retreat to second and first (after having been warned) -- 7.01

Any combination of the above type outs.

(FED has more, because you can add dead ball appeals and MC items to the list)


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