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Why not? It was a quick pitch which is a balk. And his comment about putting up a do-not-pitch sign is in line with standard thought/management. Maybe the PU should have put up the sign but he didn't. Doesn't excuse the quick pitch.
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BUT, if I miss it and my partner gets the balk...by rule it's a balk. Plain and simple.
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You can't have a balk for a quick pitch unless the pitcher delivers an actual (live ball) pitch, and that should never be allowed to happen. If F1 tries to throw a quick-pitch, I will kill the ball and tell him: "don't start your motion/stretch until he's looking at you." If he continues to ignore this directive, he gets ejected (haven't had to do that yet), but I will never have to balk a quick-pitch because there will never be one. |
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It is implicit in Rick's answer that a quick pitch (balk) is the correct call even if the umpire's hand is up. That is wrong. Rick's last sentence would be correct if 'even' were changed to 'only'. Everything else (except the rule quote) is wrong.
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Rule 8.05(e) Comment: . . . . The quick pitch is dangerous and should not be permitted. Can't give the pitcher a free shot can we? Warn? Warn after the trainer hauls the batter off on a stretcher? Call it unsportsmanlike and eject (don't need a live ball here)?
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I agree that it is dangerous, and it shouldn't happen if the PU is paying attention. But if it does happen, a warning to the pitcher is appropriate.
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Manny and Dash.
And it can't be a HBP either. But there will be one mightily pissed off offensive team. What do you do after the mound charge is over?
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Rule 5.1.4 ....After a dead ball, the ball becomes live when (in summary) the pitcher, catcher and batter are in place and ready.........and the umpire calls "play" and gives the appropriate signal. Control your game and this crap doesn't happen. Period. |
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That wasn't the question though.
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I'm not sure what else you're looking for, Rich. We already established that it cannot be a balk, and as you point out, it cannot be a HBP. If there's a bench clearing incident, you treat it like any other bench clearing incident. If that didn't happen, you can certainly warn the pitcher to wait until the ball is put in play, and wait for the offensive coach to decide the batter is okay to continue, or bring in a sub.
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