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BayStateRef Thu Sep 19, 2013 02:26pm

2-strike strikeout
 
This is almost a week old...but I just found it.

NY Yankees catcher Chris Stewart is "struck out" on a 1-1 pitch. He swings at the third pitch (thinking it was strike 3) and returns to the dugout.

What is the correct mechanic here? He is never called out...and the umpire never signaled strike 3.

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bob jenkins Thu Sep 19, 2013 02:40pm

If you know it was only strike 2 then I think the proper mechanic is just to bring the batter back out (I'd do it with some kind of joke).

If you're confused, too, then go with strike three. The "signals" aren't needed or what determines the out.

BayStateRef Thu Sep 19, 2013 02:49pm

There is no sign the umpire was confused. He made no signal on the first pitch (ball 1); second pitch was fouled; third pitch, swinging strike. At 1:01 in the video, he is clearly shown signaling strike 2.

bob jenkins Thu Sep 19, 2013 03:28pm

Agreed. In some story or another, the batter indicates how / why he was confused.

I haven't seen anything "official" on how MLB wants it handled, but I would bring the batter back in NCAA and below.

Rita C Thu Sep 19, 2013 04:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 905534)
Agreed. In some story or another, the batter indicates how / why he was confused.

I haven't seen anything "official" on how MLB wants it handled, but I would bring the batter back in NCAA and below.

You don't think 6.02 applies?

Rich Thu Sep 19, 2013 04:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 905541)
You don't think 6.02 applies?

No, I don't. He didn't "refuse" anything. You can't refuse unless you're asked to do something.

BayStateRef Thu Sep 19, 2013 05:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 905541)
You don't think 6.02 applies?

I have no problem with saying 6.02 applies...except that the umpire did not signal a strike nor declare the batter out -- both which are required under 6.02. (Bold and red are mine...to show what the rule requires.)

Rule 6.02(c)
If the batter refuses to take his position in the batter’s box during his time at bat, the
umpire shall call a strike on the batter. The ball is dead, and no runners may advance. After the penalty, the batter may take his proper position and the regularball and strike count shall continue. If the batter does not take his proper positionbefore three strikes have been called, the batter shall be declared out.

Rita C Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 905542)
No, I don't. He didn't "refuse" anything. You can't refuse unless you're asked to do something.

So I don't understand why he was called out.

Rita

bluehair Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:47pm

The video didn't show what happened after B left the BB. I've been told that PU did give an out mechanic (not in the video), but I don't know.

Hey kid, c'mon back. You get three strikes on Saturdays.

bob jenkins Fri Sep 20, 2013 07:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 905561)
So I don't understand why he was called out.

Rita

9.01c or error.


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