What about if the manager wants the umpire to seek help so he doesn't have to use a challenge?

We have seen calls changed after the umpires huddled. With IR the umpire who made the call most likely isn't going to check with his partners figuring if the coach doesn't like it he can challenge.

Again as i previously mentioned this is the infant stage and I am pretty certain IR will be tweaked after it's indoctrination.

Pete Booth

Yeah I've been thinking about this too. If you come out on the field, you have to challenge or be ejected. So if you're out of challenges and come on the field to argue a call, it's time to hit the showers.

After watching the shenanigans from Chad Fairchild and Ted Barrett's crew this week I am now 100% in favor of instant replay.

In fact Michael Kay and David Cone of the YES network are going over chapter and verse all the missed calls by Ted Barrett's crew this week, which is remarkable because they were all in favor of the Yankees.

You sure hate Chad Fairchild.

Getting similar to hockey......
 

From the MLB press release:

"If a manager is out of challenges, an umpire probably will be allowed to call for a review if he wants to"

Poor English notwithstanding, this fixes nothing. A manager who is out of challenges will argue and argue until the umpire calls for the review. After all, which umpire is going to NOT call for a review at the risk of getting the call wrong? If MLB umpires agree to the proposal under the "getting the calls right" mantra, none of them are going to refuse to check with the suits in NYC.

So in my mind, the manager will really have unlimited challenges.

There is an easy way to fix that.

If they're going to implement instant replay, get rid of tolerating arguing.

The manager can use a challenge if he has one, otherwise he has to keep his yap shut or risk being ejected.

Maybe MLB can build challenges into a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct. For example: A player spikes his helmet in response to a call. Instead of getting tossed, the umpires assess his team a penalty of one challenge. If they have no challenges, the player is ejected.

Here is how I would do it:

1) Any home run call, fair/foul call, ground rule double call, spectator interference call (in other words any boundary call) is subject to an umpire initiated review with no challenges at stake.

2) Any manager gets two challenges per nine innings. What if the game goes 20 innings as the Mets had this year. This is akin to the Grand Slam tennis rule in the final set a player gets three incorrect challenges every 12 games.