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ghill Fri Aug 01, 2003 07:36pm

In MLB, if a player catches a potential home run ball, and then simulataneously falls over the outfield fence (in fair play), is this counted as a home run, an out, or a ground rule double?

mick Fri Aug 01, 2003 07:44pm

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Originally posted by ghill
In MLB, if a player catches a potential home run ball, and then simulataneously falls over the outfield fence (in fair play), is this counted as a home run, an out, or a ground rule double?
an out


ghill Fri Aug 01, 2003 07:48pm

Homerun Ruling??
 
OK, thanks. So it is not up to the Umpires judgement, or anything of that sort?

SC Ump Fri Aug 01, 2003 08:30pm

Re: Homerun Ruling??
 
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Originally posted by ghill
OK, thanks. So it is not up to the Umpires judgement, or anything of that sort?
Well, I guess it's umpire's judgement as to whether the ball was really caught or not. And in a field with a fence that is not very tall (e.g. Dodger Stadium), I guess it's an upire's judgement as to whether the fielder was over the fence before he made the catch.

BTW, if the player falls into deadball territory after making a catch, then any runners advance one base.

chris s Sat Aug 02, 2003 07:11am

MUST WE........
 
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Originally posted by SC Ump
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Originally posted by ghill
OK, thanks. So it is not up to the Umpires judgement, or anything of that sort?
Well, I guess it's umpire's judgement as to whether the ball was really caught or not. And in a field with a fence that is not very tall (e.g. Dodger Stadium), I guess it's an upire's judgement as to whether the fielder was over the fence before he made the catch.

BTW, if the player falls into deadball territory after making a catch, then any runners advance one base.

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Bring my Dodgers into this...:)? They be sucking wind, big time! i gotta deal with these giants fans where I am at!!
Onto the fence issue, if f7 makes a catch, over the vertical of the fence, breaks some ribones, smashes a nut,bruises a kidney,....I got an out!You be correct if he falls,but .....credit the "D" if they make a great play

SC Ump Sat Aug 02, 2003 07:22am

Re: MUST WE........
 
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Originally posted by chris s
... over the vertical of the fence...
You are correct; my answer was vague. I did not mean to imply the fielder could not be over the vertical of the fence and make the catch for an out, as long as he has not landed in DBT before actually making the catch.

LDUB Sat Aug 02, 2003 04:26pm

Yes it is an out. But because the fielder carried the ball into dead ball teritory would any other runners be awarded bases? I am unsure on OBR rules.

CDcoach Sat Aug 02, 2003 06:02pm

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Originally posted by LDUB
Yes it is an out. But because the fielder carried the ball into dead ball teritory would any other runners be awarded bases? I am unsure on OBR rules.
All runners advance one base I believe if the fielder FALLS into DBT.

chris s Sat Aug 02, 2003 10:18pm

Now he falls.
 
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Originally posted by CDcoach
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Originally posted by LDUB
Yes it is an out. But because the fielder carried the ball into dead ball teritory would any other runners be awarded bases? I am unsure on OBR rules.
All runners advance one base I believe if the fielder FALLS into DBT.

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Show me the ball!!!! Correct on the award for runners.......NOW, how many of us youth leages have actual stadiums,my semi-pro and JUCO stuff has no seating in the outfield.most fences are taller than fielders.

spidersquall Mon Aug 04, 2003 02:17pm

If a player catches the ball and goes over the fence it is a home run. MLB rules state that for it to be an out the players feet have to land on the field for it to be considered an out. Therefore lets say Barry Bonds hits a ball that should be a home run, Shawn Green jumps to cath the ball and lands outside the field, it is a home run. Now if Shawn Green where to have landed on the playing field, it would have been an out.

greymule Mon Aug 04, 2003 02:54pm

Where did you learn that fact, Spidersquall? It's not in my MLB rulebook.

CDcoach Mon Aug 04, 2003 04:20pm

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Originally posted by spidersquall
If a player catches the ball and goes over the fence it is a home run. MLB rules state that for it to be an out the players feet have to land on the field for it to be considered an out. Therefore lets say Barry Bonds hits a ball that should be a home run, Shawn Green jumps to cath the ball and lands outside the field, it is a home run. Now if Shawn Green where to have landed on the playing field, it would have been an out.

Sorry man you are wrong on that one....

mick Mon Aug 04, 2003 04:27pm

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Originally posted by spidersquall
If a player catches the ball and goes over the fence it is a home run. MLB rules state that for it to be an out the players feet have to land on the field for it to be considered an out. Therefore lets say Barry Bonds hits a ball that should be a home run, Shawn Green jumps to cath the ball and lands outside the field, it is a home run. Now if Shawn Green where to have landed on the playing field, it would have been an out.
Welcome to the forum, spidersquall.

The posters here are pretty sharp.
...And they have books that are worn out from turnin' pages. ;)

Stick around.
mick

Warren Willson Mon Aug 04, 2003 06:16pm

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Originally posted by spidersquall
MLB rules state that for it to be an out the players feet have to land on the field for it to be considered an out.
No, no, no, no spidersquall ... that should read "<i><b>NFL</b> rules state that for it to be <b>a touchdown</b> the players feet have to land in the <b>ingoal area</b> for it to be considered a <b>completion</b>.</i>" :D

GarthB Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:27am

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Originally posted by spidersquall
If a player catches the ball and goes over the fence it is a home run. MLB rules state that for it to be an out the players feet have to land on the field for it to be considered an out. Therefore lets say Barry Bonds hits a ball that should be a home run, Shawn Green jumps to cath the ball and lands outside the field, it is a home run. Now if Shawn Green where to have landed on the playing field, it would have been an out.
Well this flies in the face of the Official Baseball Rules which, I believe, the MLB still uses.

Jim Porter Tue Aug 05, 2003 02:13am

Criminy! This one is something that every regular on this forum is going to be in agreement on. That is a rare thing, indeed. Spidersquall is obviously mistaken.

spidersquall Wed Aug 06, 2003 02:17pm

Sorry, I didn't proofread my post. What I meant to say was that if t a potential home run ball is caught out of the playing field, it is not a home run. That was what I meant to say.

mick Wed Aug 06, 2003 02:25pm

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Originally posted by spidersquall
Sorry, I didn't proofread my post. What I meant to say was that if t a potential home run ball is caught out of the playing field, it is not a home run. That was what I meant to say.
When that happens to me, I say, "Oops! I kicked it!"
...But then, I have kicked so many that I have become 'uncomfortably' comfortable apologizing.(<I>ie. I kick 'em with way too much regularity.</I>)
mick


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