Time of pitch or time of throw?
Can someone help me with a play?
Runners on first and second, nobody out. Ground ball to 3B. The thirdbaseman tags third for the first out and thorws the ball out of play when trying to get the batter at first base. R1 is past second base when the throw is made. Is the award time of pitch or time of throw? If tagging third is considered a play, then I think that it should be time of throw. |
A tag or tag try of a base is a play.
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If the throw to first was to put out the batter/runner making a turn to second after touching first, then the award would be from the time of throw. R1 to Home, batter to 3rd. |
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My explanation above was accurate and correct. I don't know why you have to make things so confusing with this "first play has not ended" comment. That's unnecessary and incorrect. |
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I'm still trying to decipher exactly what he said. :confused:
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This is true. :)
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Tim. |
Perhaps he was trying to mean that when a batter-runner reaches or passes first base BEFORE a wild throw is made, then the award is TOT, even if the throw is the first play by an infielder. Of course, this would be true only IF the B-R (and all other runners, if there were any) reached his advance base before the throw was released. This, however, as I stated above, is exceedingly rare.
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How? Please enlighten us (or maybe just me) with your knowledge. |
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The first play in the example was the tag of third base. First play is ended. Anything after that is a second play. That means the placement of the runners will be from the time of the throw. At that point in the OP, R1 was past second and (we assume) the BR was not yet at first. R1 is awarded home, BR is awarded second. It's as simple as that. Now when you read what you wrote, you should see why we see it as nonsense. Rita |
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