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smbbcoach99 Wed May 08, 2013 12:59pm

Sorry for the late question on this
 
All-

At a game this weekend, playing NFHS rules, was informed by the umpire in charge that the fake to 3rd - 1st move was a balk.

I looked but could not find it in the NFHS rule book either as a change or a rule.

So, please- is it s rule change this year?

I have heard MLB is changing it. I have also heard OBR is/has changed it?

Thanks for the assistance

shickenbottom Wed May 08, 2013 01:12pm

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Originally Posted by smbbcoach99 (Post 893278)
All-

At a game this weekend, playing NFHS rules, was informed by the umpire in charge that the fake to 3rd - 1st move was a balk.

I looked but could not find it in the NFHS rule book either as a change or a rule.

So, please- is it s rule change this year?

I have heard MLB is changing it. I have also heard OBR is/has changed it?

Thanks for the assistance

Who ever told you this is still working on his associates degree from MSU (Making shit up).

The Fake 3-1 move is still legal in NFHS.

smbbcoach99 Wed May 08, 2013 01:15pm

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Originally Posted by shickenbottom (Post 893283)
Who ever told you this is still working on his associates degree from MSU (Making shit up).

The Fake 3-1 move is still legal in NFHS.

Thanks.

I have heard that NF is either considering or is making the change next year - true?? (depending whom you talk with). But didnt remember it being brought up in the rules meeting and could not find anything about it.

RPatrino Wed May 08, 2013 01:18pm

Sam, he isn't 'working' on the degree, he graduated with honors. :p

jicecone Wed May 08, 2013 01:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by smbbcoach99 (Post 893278)
All-

At a game this weekend, playing NFHS rules, was informed by the umpire in charge that the fake to 3rd - 1st move was a balk.

I looked but could not find it in the NFHS rule book either as a change or a rule.

So, please- is it s rule change this year?

I have heard MLB is changing it. I have also heard OBR is/has changed it?

Thanks for the assistance

I think it was another MLB ump trying to get some tune up games in before the season started. They have been known to do things like that.

briancurtin Wed May 08, 2013 02:04pm

Could have been Lance Cokalinski getting a warmup game in before it's time for his job to begin: playoffs.

shickenbottom Wed May 08, 2013 02:11pm

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Originally Posted by smbbcoach99 (Post 893284)
Thanks.

I have heard that NF is either considering or is making the change next year - true?? (depending whom you talk with). But didnt remember it being brought up in the rules meeting and could not find anything about it.

I don't go into rumors or discussions at the national level.

Until it's printed and made illegal, it's legal.

I don't understand why it was made illegal in OBR anyway. Sure, it works for the righty and gives him an advantage to catch a sleeping runner. But the lefty has an advantage over the righty on the base pick to one every day of the week. I'll get off my soap box now and get my PHD (Pile it higher and deeper) degree from MSU:eek:

MD Longhorn Wed May 08, 2013 03:04pm

I don't think it was made illegal because it's sneaky, or gives an advantage ... or even because it works! Cause it doesn't.

I believe it was made illegal because it's a freaking waste of time.

bluehair Wed May 08, 2013 03:54pm

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Originally Posted by smbbcoach99 (Post 893278)
At a game this weekend, playing NFHS rules, was informed by the umpire in charge that the fake to 3rd - 1st move was a balk.

Even if it was a rule (which it ain't in Fed) why would an umpire start talking about individual rules. Did he go over the 3 strikes is an out rule (I hope I have the right rules set)? Stupid is as stupid does, but I'm skeptical of this OP.

shickenbottom Wed May 08, 2013 04:10pm

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Originally Posted by RPatrino (Post 893288)
Sam, he isn't 'working' on the degree, he graduated with honors. :p

Depending upon the audience, some people have a PHD from MSU instead of say a Masters, BS, or Associates.

To us, this is an associate (because we know the truth), The original poster would have thought he had a BS or Masters, because he came here to question it after the fact.

Just for reference, here's the slang:

A PHD (Piled higher and deeper)
A Master (Master of deception)
A BS (bulls**ter)
An Associates (just that - still learning the ropes)

Steven Tyler Wed May 08, 2013 11:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by shickenbottom (Post 893328)
Depending upon the audience, some people have a PHD from MSU instead of say a Masters, BS, or Associates.

To us, this is an associate (because we know the truth), The original poster would have thought he had a BS or Masters, because he came here to question it after the fact.

Just for reference, here's the slang:

A PHD (Piled higher and deeper)
A Master (Master of deception)
A BS (bulls**ter)
An Associates (just that - still learning the ropes)

Your GED is lost in the mail. (getting even dumber)

bob jenkins Sun May 12, 2013 09:08am

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Originally Posted by bluehair (Post 893325)
Even if it was a rule (which it ain't in Fed) why would an umpire start talking about individual rules. Did he go over the 3 strikes is an out rule (I hope I have the right rules set)? Stupid is as stupid does, but I'm skeptical of this OP.

Maybe it was early in the (youth league) season -- it's relatviely common practice to go over some of the new rules for the first week or so of the season.

Or, maybe he was asked -- we were asked about it by a college coach this weekend.

RadioBlue Mon May 13, 2013 09:08am

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 893312)
I don't think it was made illegal because it's sneaky, or gives an advantage ... or even because it works! Cause it doesn't.

I believe it was made illegal because it's a freaking waste of time.

It usually is, but not always. Ask Brett Gardner. :D


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