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ASA/NYSSOBLUE Sun Sep 30, 2012 08:55am

You have to see this one!
 
Never have even HEARD of this before - what is the rule reference/mechanics on this??

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | WSH@STL: Morse has single overturned into grand slam - Video | nationals.com: Multimedia

:eek::confused:

Manny A Sun Sep 30, 2012 08:57am

This Seemed Rather Silly
 
Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | WSH@STL: Morse has single overturned into grand slam - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

Why make Morse go all the way back home? When the umpires came out after reviewing replay, he was standing on first. The runners could have just continued running from that point.

Weird...

APG Sun Sep 30, 2012 08:58am

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MD Longhorn Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:22am

What in the world? He even pretended to swing again. This is bizarre.

jicecone Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:31am

I don't think the officials were certain about any runner tagging up or touching, so they made them all start from their original position so as to acertain there would be no appeal of a missed base. Seems logical to me.

Morse added a little flair to it by swinging. After the game he stated " I was just trying to get another thread started on the Official Forum".

What a guy!!!!!!

ASA/NYSSOBLUE Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:21am

Nelson said that it was because of Morse's tagout going back to 1B - they wanted make sure all the runners properly tagged their respective bases - Morse added the little flair of the phantom swing himself.

And they say there's no show biz left in sports anymore :p

ozzy6900 Sun Sep 30, 2012 05:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jicecone (Post 856583)
I don't think the officials were certain about any runner tagging up or touching, so they made them all start from their original position so as to acertain there would be no appeal of a missed base. Seems logical to me.

Morse added a little flair to it by swinging. After the game he stated " I was just trying to get another thread started on the Official Forum".

What a guy!!!!!!

As ridiculous as this sounds, it is the only logical explanation.

voiceoflg Sun Sep 30, 2012 07:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 856608)
As ridiculous as this sounds, it is the only logical explanation.

I have a question of logic. Why isn't there a yellow line above which would be a home run that would help make these calls a bit more obvious?

jicecone Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by voiceoflg (Post 856618)
I have a question of logic. Why isn't there a yellow line above which would be a home run that would help make these calls a bit more obvious?

Ok Rich, time to close this thread down. This guy is way too logical for this forum.

Rita C Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jicecone (Post 856626)
ok rich, time to close this thread down. This guy is way too logical for this forum.

:d

CT1 Mon Oct 01, 2012 06:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by voiceoflg (Post 856618)
I have a question of logic. Why isn't there a yellow line above which would be a home run that would help make these calls a bit more obvious?

(1) It wouldn't fit with the Busch Stadium decor.

(2) It would detract from the advertising signs located just above & behind the wall, & they certainly can't have that.

voiceoflg Mon Oct 01, 2012 06:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 856637)
(1) It wouldn't fit with the Busch Stadium decor.

(2) It would detract from the advertising signs located just above & behind the wall, & they certainly can't have that.

Ah...so it isn't the game the people pay to see. It is the advertising.

Got it. ;)

Manny A Mon Oct 01, 2012 09:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by voiceoflg (Post 856639)
Ah...so it isn't the game the people pay to see. It is the advertising.

Got it. ;)

That yellow line doesn't always work, either. I've seen batted balls clear the line, and the umpires still have a hard time discerning if they did. Same with the foul poles, and determining if the ball crossed in front of or behind them. It often makes me wonder why those poles aren't something like black where it would be easier to see an off-white ball cross in front or behind.

Altor Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:37am

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 856647)
It often makes me wonder why those poles aren't something like black where it would be easier to see an off-white ball cross in front or behind.

And the yellow line on top of the fence with the yellow foul pole makes even less sense. In once case, the yellow is in play. In the other, it is out of play.

rbmartin Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:34am

The most important things we can learn from this is, whatever level you are working as an umpire,..
a) learn , know and discuss the ground rules of the facility you are working before the game.
b) before the game, make a thorough walk around of the field to see if there is anything beyond the fence (poles, trees, signage etc) which can fool you into making an improper call.


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