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aceholleran Sun Sep 09, 2012 03:55am

Yanks-O's Saturday/Game Ender
 
See the vid:
New York Yankees Mark Teixeira critical of umps on final out - ESPN New York

I really don't care who wins this game. Of course, ESPN anoints Tex as safe. He is a Yankee, after all.

BUT, at second blush, did Texiera miss 1B with his lead (i. e., right) hand? Perhaps arbiter Meals didn't kick this one.

Your fifths of a dime, group.

Ace, now in PA

maven Sun Sep 09, 2012 07:03am

That's worth watching just to see the Yankee crybabies do their thing.

Rich Ives Sun Sep 09, 2012 09:07am

Wonderful. Blowing a call royally is OK because it happened to the Yankees. Way to go impartial arbiters! You can call my games any time - not!

Dakota Sun Sep 09, 2012 09:29am

The replays on MLB.com are more clear... he was safe.

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However, this is all you need to know about the Yankees, and especially Teixeira,
Quote:

Teixeira questioned the umpire crews' integrity.

"Sometimes you wonder if the umpires are just trying to get out of there," said Teixeira, who had argued a strike three call in the eighth. "They don't want you to make a comeback. They want to go home because those were terrible calls. It is what it is. We are out there fighting. I'm out there playing on one leg. I wish it had gone my way."

Teixeira already had argued with home-plate umpire Cory Blaser in the eighth when he thought a called third strike on a 3-2 pitch was "five or six inches outside."

aceholleran Sun Sep 09, 2012 01:08pm

I must admit that I DO enjoy the whines of the Evil Empre and its minions.

Hold onto your socks while you read this ultimate Yankee apologist; he's looking to hang the entire NYY collapse on this one call. Rarely have I seen such an absurd, illogical premise by a sportswriter.

D'Alessandro: If the Yankees lose the pennant by a game, an umpire's call will be the reason why | NJ.com

Ace in PA

dash_riprock Sun Sep 09, 2012 01:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceholleran (Post 853804)
Hold onto your socks while you read this ultimate Yankee apologist; he's looking to hang the entire NYY collapse on this one call. Rarely have I seen such an absurd, illogical premise by a sportswriter.

The premise is neither illogical nor absurd. If the Yanks miss the playoffs by a game, that call will be the reason. There will also be 70+ other equally logical reasons why they are playing golf in October.

I wouldn't count them out just yet.

Welpe Sun Sep 09, 2012 02:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 853772)
Wonderful. Blowing a call royally is OK because it happened to the Yankees. Way to go impartial arbiters! You can call my games any time - not!

Yes. Same as if it happened to the Dodgers.

Rich Sun Sep 09, 2012 02:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceholleran (Post 853804)
I must admit that I DO enjoy the whines of the Evil Empre and its minions.

Hold onto your socks while you read this ultimate Yankee apologist; he's looking to hang the entire NYY collapse on this one call. Rarely have I seen such an absurd, illogical premise by a sportswriter.

D'Alessandro: If the Yankees lose the pennant by a game, an umpire's call will be the reason why | NJ.com

Ace in PA

Funny. It would've been a tie game. Quite a leap to say the Yankees WOULD'VE won, isn't it?

The only thing that makes me happier than whiny Yankees fans are whiny Cowboys fans.

Rich Ives Sun Sep 09, 2012 02:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 853817)
Funny. It would've been a tie game. Quite a leap to say the Yankees WOULD'VE won, isn't it?

The only thing that makes me happier than whiny Yankees fans are whiny Cowboys fans.

And if Buckner had made the play it would have been a tie game - in game 6.

Doesn't stop Sox fans for blaming the series loss on him.

grunewar Sun Sep 09, 2012 04:31pm

Not Hardly!
 
One of our local tv sports pundits said this was pay back for Jeffrey Maher..... as if! :eek:

Steven Tyler Sun Sep 09, 2012 05:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 853821)
And if Buckner had made the play it would have been a tie game - in game 6.

Doesn't stop Sox fans for blaming the series loss on him.

No it would have been the third out of the inning. The Sox would have won the Series. The error allowed two runs to score.

Steven Tyler Sun Sep 09, 2012 05:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 853817)
Funny. It would've been a tie game. Quite a leap to say the Yankees WOULD'VE won, isn't it?

The only thing that makes me happier than whiny Yankees fans are whiny Cowboys fans.

Cowboy fan since 1960. Win, lose, or draw, it's nothing I have control over, so I don't obsess over defeat. Just tired of Jerry Jones.

Rich Ives Sun Sep 09, 2012 05:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 853827)
One of our local tv sports pundits said this was pay back for Jeffrey Maher..... as if! :eek:

Richie Garcia made the Maier call. Are they getting even with him? :D

dash_riprock Sun Sep 09, 2012 05:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 853837)
No it would have been the third out of the inning. The Sox would have won the Series. The error allowed two runs to score.

Nope. The game was tied, Ray Knight (winning run) was on 2nd when the ball went through Billy Buck's wicket.

Rita C Sun Sep 09, 2012 05:41pm

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maven Sun Sep 09, 2012 08:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceholleran (Post 853804)
I must admit that I DO enjoy the whines of the Evil Empre and its minions.

I suppose that call caused today's loss, too, completing the destruction of their 10 game lead.

Maybe MLB should save some money on officials and get themselves some "replacement umpires." :D

Rich Ives Sun Sep 09, 2012 09:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by maven (Post 853871)
I suppose that call caused today's loss, too, completing the destruction of their 10 game lead.

Maybe MLB should save some money on officials and get themselves some "replacement umpires." :D



What loss today?

Yankees 13 Orioles 3

Lead is 1

Adam Sun Sep 09, 2012 09:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 853827)
One of our local tv sports pundits said this was pay back for Jeffrey Maher..... as if! :eek:

So it was a delayed makeup call?

cookie Mon Sep 10, 2012 01:34am

Men's League (35+) DH Sunday, I'm on the bases. At the beginning of the game, we're told in a sort of jesting manner, "Just don't give us any calls like the one Teixiera got the other day in Baltimore."

And, of course, with 2 outs and nobody on, bottom of the 7th,home team losing 4-3, the last play of the game would be a ground ball to the 3rd baseman who throws long to first on a bounce caught solidly by the 1st baseman. I hear the pop of the glove and see the foot hit the bag - a Whacker! End of game! Didn't I hear it (no curse words though) from BR and Head Coach about the Teixeira play and the horrible call I had just made! All I said back to them was "the ball beat the runner" (3-4 times) as I motioned to my partner to exit with me to the cars with verbal variations of horrible call chants in the background. Now we prepare for the 2nd game, me at the plate.

Rita C Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookie (Post 853907)
Men's League (35+) DH Sunday, I'm on the bases. At the beginning of the game, we're told in a sort of jesting manner, "Just don't give us any calls like the one Teixiera got the other day in Baltimore."

And, of course, with 2 outs and nobody on, bottom of the 7th,home team losing 4-3, the last play of the game would be a ground ball to the 3rd baseman who throws long to first on a bounce caught solidly by the 1st baseman. I hear the pop of the glove and see the foot hit the bag - a Whacker! End of game! Didn't I hear it (no curse words though) from BR and Head Coach about the Teixeira play and the horrible call I had just made! All I said back to them was "the ball beat the runner" (3-4 times) as I motioned to my partner to exit with me to the cars with verbal variations of horrible call chants in the background. Now we prepare for the 2nd game, me at the plate.

Too many Y****e fans everywhere.

:D

MD Longhorn Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceholleran (Post 853804)
I must admit that I DO enjoy the whines of the Evil Empre and its minions.

Hold onto your socks while you read this ultimate Yankee apologist; he's looking to hang the entire NYY collapse on this one call. Rarely have I seen such an absurd, illogical premise by a sportswriter.

D'Alessandro: If the Yankees lose the pennant by a game, an umpire's call will be the reason why | NJ.com

Ace in PA

My favorite is the assumption that the Yankees would have scored 2 more runs had Tex been ruled safe. It's still entirely likely that they'd have lost this game even if the right call had been made.

Manny A Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 853827)
One of our local tv sports pundits said this was pay back for Jeffrey Maher..... as if! :eek:

The stupidity of some of these pretty faces they put on TV nowadays never ceases to amaze me.

JJ Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:28am

"And..." as they say, "...that's baseball".

JJ

Rich Ives Mon Sep 10, 2012 01:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 853952)
My favorite is the assumption that the Yankees would have scored 2 more runs had Tex been ruled safe. It's still entirely likely that they'd have lost this game even if the right call had been made.

Check your math. If Tex was safe the game was tied.

Manny A Mon Sep 10, 2012 01:52pm

This was nothing more than a missed call on a wacker. It happens weekly, probably even daily, in MLB play. This one just happened to be a game-ending call that would have tied the score if it went the other way. If it had happened in the fourth inning, it wouldn't have caused a ripple in the press.

Of course, nobody talks about other parts of the game that had just as much bearing, if not more so, on its outcome. The Yankees had runners of first and second with one out in the sixth, and then Martin and Granderson both strike out. In the eighth, Granderson popped out with runners at first and third to end the inning. Sabathia gave up three home runs, including back-to-back shots that let the Orioles tie the game early. And why let Swisher, who is mired in a slump, bat with the bases loaded and no outs in that ninth inning?

One call may be the difference between the Yankees making the post-season or not? Puhleeze. How about focusing on the real issues with NY as they let a ten-game lead in late July disappear? How many of those games have they lost to missed calls?

Texeira, like nearly every other player in pinstripes, gets paid an obscene amount of money to come through in situations like this with an extra-base hit, not a weak grounder that he has to leg out to prevent a DP. He should be mad at himself, not the umpire, for his failure to deliver.

Rich Ives Mon Sep 10, 2012 02:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 853994)
on a wacker. .

It wasn't that close :D

MD Longhorn Mon Sep 10, 2012 02:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 853987)
Check your math. If Tex was safe the game was tied.

I think you know what I meant though... this play, if ruled correctly, didn't win them the game. They didn't just need the run scored on this play, they needed another.

kblump Mon Sep 10, 2012 03:16pm

bad call is a bad call
 
We have all done this for a long time and can emphasize with an ump who misses a call. The replays clearly show Tex was safe so you can call them whiny all you want, they were right. As someone else said, that call cost them a tie, no way to know who would have won. Not to mention, maybe you should have scored more runs earlier and then you wouldn't have to worry about a bad call that just might happen.


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