I told you before "Realist".

Politically correct or tactfully diplomatic sometimes, just doesn't get the point across.:):):)

Well, they done changed the rule a couple of years ago, and made the phrasing the same.
6.05(j) After a third strike or after he hits a fair ball, he or first base is tagged before he touches first base;
7.08(e) He or the next base is tagged before he touches the next base, after he has been forced to advance by reason of the batter becoming a runner.

In other words, these days, the "tie" (if you wish to believe in such a thing) goes to the runner in both cases.
Probably better to not trot the above summary out again next year.:)

Both ejections (regardless of what the morons broadcasting the game on TV or radio or writing about the game the next day think) were routine, easy EJ's on the professional level. Spiking of equipment after a judgment call by an umpire on a close play is an automatic EJ. If the batter had been called "out" and spiked his helmet after having run through first base...he'd have been tossed, too.

The manager almost assuredly said the "magic words" (made the argument personal) and got the automatic EJ.

So many "professional" sports journalists are making a whole lot out of the EJ of the pitcher which I can't understand. Since baseball began almost 100% of the time players who spike equipment after a close call that does not go their way are ejected.

I know exactly why they're making a big deal: trashing umpires is fun and has absolutely no downside. Who's going to tune out, umpire fans?

Greinke went to Holbrook after — you can read his lips — and said, "I was mad at myself." Fine. But it looks as if you're showing up the umpire. Intent is not the only issue when you throw a little tantrum. Appearances matter, too.

I would have been surprised if he wasn't ejected. Actions can speak louder than words, but sometimes actions are like playing charades. OTOH, I don't think Greinke meant to show up the umpire in any way. Greinke knew he did wrong, and admitted as such after the game.

+1 Byron....I want to work with you. You are the voice of reason on this forum.