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drb21610 Sat Jun 23, 2012 01:52pm

Question about non-pivot foot
 
I am confused about NFHS's rule 6-1-3 regarding the pitcher's non-pivot foot in the set position. An excerpt below:

"Before starting his delivery, he shall stand with his entire non-Pivot foot on or behind a line extending through the front edge of the pitcher's plate..."


Where exactly does this mean his non-pivot foot is legal? There was a pitcher who started with his pivot foot completely on the rubber but his other foot was halfway in between first base and home and thus his non-pivot foot was outside of the rubber. He then came set by bringing his non-pivot foot parallel to his pivot foot.

This is a balk, right?

SAump Sat Jun 23, 2012 02:51pm

In front of, not behind
 
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Originally Posted by drb21610 (Post 847111)
I am confused about NFHS's rule 6-1-3 regarding the pitcher's non-pivot foot in the set position. An excerpt below:

"Before starting his delivery, he shall stand with his entire non-Pivot foot on or behind a line extending through the front edge of the pitcher's plate..."


Where exactly does this mean his non-pivot foot is legal? There was a pitcher who started with his pivot foot completely on the rubber but his other foot was halfway in between first base and home and thus his non-pivot foot was outside of the rubber. He then came set by bringing his non-pivot foot parallel to his pivot foot.

This is a balk, right?

should read in front of a line, not on or behind.

Ex. Common little league gorilla stance is legal pre-set position, followed by legal set position.

dash_riprock Sat Jun 23, 2012 02:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by drb21610 (Post 847111)
I am confused about NFHS's rule 6-1-3 regarding the pitcher's non-pivot foot in the set position. An excerpt below:

"Before starting his delivery, he shall stand with his entire non-Pivot foot on or behind a line extending through the front edge of the pitcher's plate..."


Where exactly does this mean his non-pivot foot is legal? There was a pitcher who started with his pivot foot completely on the rubber but his other foot was halfway in between first base and home and thus his non-pivot foot was outside of the rubber. He then came set by bringing his non-pivot foot parallel to his pivot foot.

This is a balk, right?

Completely legal. And you have the rule wrong. From the set, the free (non-pivot) foot must be in front of a line extending through the front edge of the rubber. From the windup, the free foot cannot be in front of the rubber when the pitcher starts his delivery..

mbyron Sat Jun 23, 2012 06:17pm

There's no such thing as a position balk. The position of the free foot defines which pitching position F1 is in. If the free foot is on or behind the rubber, windup. If it's in front, set.

umpjim Sat Jun 23, 2012 08:27pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 847123)
There's no such thing as a position balk. The position of the free foot defines which pitching position F1 is in. If the free foot is on[or in line with or behind the rubber, windup. If it's in front, set.


I added the bolded part to your quote. If you don't comply with FED pitching restrictions 6-1,2,3 it is a balk.
OBR This does not apply.

JR12 Sat Jun 23, 2012 08:35pm

byron is right on the money.We looked into it deep this year, cause a HS coach always complains, eventhough the pitchers free foot is only inches in front of the rubber.

umpjim Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:11pm

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Originally Posted by JR12 (Post 847131)
byron is right on the money.We looked into it deep this year, cause a HS coach always complains, eventhough the pitchers free foot is only inches in front of the rubber.

Why did you look into in this year? The rule has existed for a while. (not called in many locales).

JR12 Sun Jun 24, 2012 08:50pm

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Originally Posted by umpjim (Post 847137)
Why did you look into in this year? The rule has existed for a while. (not called in many locales).

we really looked into it, because one HS Coach would ***** every game. The real reason for the rule is so the offense can tell if F1 is in the wind up or stretch.


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