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Illini_Ref Sat Jun 16, 2012 06:41pm

Obstruction or not?
 
OBR.

Bunt in the air down the first base line about 25 feet from the plate. Pitcher dives and touches the ball just in fair territory and it rebounds foul. Pitcher after he touches lands and slides into the baseline where the BR contacts him.

This happened today in the STL vs. KC game and I didn't see an obstruction signal by the PU (BR reached first safely). However, Fernando Vina got called for OBST a few years ago when as a second baseman he did the same thing between first and second, missed the ball and his subsequent positioning caused him to contact the runner. The said that as soon as he missed the ball on his initial attempt he was no longer protected.

Difference???

Matt Sat Jun 16, 2012 06:49pm

Yep, there's a difference...first call was correct, second wasn't.

mbyron Sat Jun 16, 2012 07:16pm

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Originally Posted by Illini_Ref (Post 846400)
I didn't see an obstruction signal by the PU ...

There is no OBS signal in OBR. Just sayin' ...

SanDiegoSteve Sat Jun 16, 2012 07:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 846404)
There is no OBS signal in OBR. Just sayin' ...

You don't point and say "That's Obstruction?"

JR12 Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:02pm

On a muff,.the fielder is only protected for a step and a reach. Beyond that, we have interference. Sounds lime both calls were correct to me.

Matt Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR12 (Post 846425)
On a muff,.the fielder is only protected for a step and a reach. Beyond that, we have interference. Sounds lime both calls were correct to me.

Uh, beyond that, you have obstruction.

JR12 Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:08pm

On a muff,.the fielder is only protected for a step and a reach. Beyond that, we have interference. Sounds like both calls were correct to me.

JR12 Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:09pm

Right. I meant obstruction.

UMP25 Sun Jun 17, 2012 01:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 846404)
There is no OBS signal in OBR. Just sayin' ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 846407)
You don't point and say "That's Obstruction?"

Indeed. There is a signal in OBR for obstruction, and as Steve alluded to it, it's a simple point toward the offender with, "That's obstruction!"

mbyron Sun Jun 17, 2012 06:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 846407)
You don't point and say "That's Obstruction?"

Sure, but that's not an "obstruction signal" per se, as FED has. That's what most umpires who work multiple codes think of when someone says "obstruction signal," and OBR doesn't use it.

I suppose you could say that the fist is not an obstruction signal either, that it's a delayed dead ball signal. In that case, I'll just shrug and plead ignorance of what he meant when he was looking for an "obstruction signal."

asdf Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:59am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 846439)
Sure, but that's not an "obstruction signal" per se, as FED has. That's what most umpires who work multiple codes think of when someone says "obstruction signal," and OBR doesn't use it.

I suppose you could say that the fist is not an obstruction signal either, that it's a delayed dead ball signal. In that case, I'll just shrug and plead ignorance of what he meant when he was looking for an "obstruction signal."

So, why else would he be pointing?

SanDiegoSteve Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:28pm

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Originally Posted by asdf (Post 846451)
So, why else would he be pointing?

Maybe to say, "You funny looking!"

umpjim Sun Jun 17, 2012 07:04pm

In this case, the proper signal for obstruction of the BR before he reaches 1B would be the time signal. Then maybe do some pointing for effect.


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