The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sat Jun 02, 2012, 12:08am
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,557
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer View Post
As far as replay goes, I think you'll find that 90 percent or so of people see replay as an overwhelming positive addition to both football and basketball. But both of those sports have more built in stoppages that are conducive to replay (as mentioned by JRut). Then again, replay is here to stay, and it will be expanded, so one better accept it.
Baseball has to be careful. If they do not implement it right, they will cause other controversies. It is one thing to get certain plays right, but so much can happen in baseball if the call is changed. And some of the plays that have been controversial have other implications that I do not think the public even thinks about.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sat Jun 02, 2012, 12:58am
In Time Out
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,263
The ump giveth, and the ump taketh away.

Johan Santana, "Come on down". This your lucky day.
__________________
I have nipples, Greg. Can you milk me?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Sat Jun 02, 2012, 01:08am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Lakeside, California
Posts: 6,724
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven Tyler View Post
The ump giveth, and the ump taketh away.

Johan Santana, "Come on down". This your lucky day.
Yeah, that ball got all chalk!
__________________
Matthew 15:14, 1 Corinthians 1:23-25
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Sat Jun 02, 2012, 02:31am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 158
You know what will happen in a Beltran situation? The Cardinal's dugout would tell Beltran to step out of the batter's box until the people in the command center would have enough time to see the play.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:29pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Lincoln Co, Missouri
Posts: 823
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmagan View Post
You know what will happen in a Beltran situation? The Cardinal's dugout would tell Beltran to step out of the batter's box until the people in the command center would have enough time to see the play.
And if it was ruled fair, then what?
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 20, 2012, 08:11am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyezen View Post
And if it was ruled fair, then what?
Changing fair to foul will not be difficult. Changing foul to fair (except over the fence) will be a mess... so if they go to replay on this kind of call, umpires will be encouraged to call anything close fair.
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 20, 2012, 08:45am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Urbana, IL
Posts: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder View Post
Changing fair to foul will not be difficult. Changing foul to fair (except over the fence) will be a mess... so if they go to replay on this kind of call, umpires will be encouraged to call anything close fair.
Agreed. It will make it like high school football is now. Televised football games have replay, so officials are taught to withhold whistles on close plays. With MLB replay they will be encouraged to rule fair, then let the camera sort it out. The rest of us will have to do it the old fashioned way. Make me wonder how this will effect MiLB umpires. Perhaps they will use replay at AAA also, so those on the cusp will get used to how the big boys do it.

Whole lot simpler and cheaper to shun the monitor to make the call in the first place.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:14am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 158
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder View Post
Changing fair to foul will not be difficult. Changing foul to fair (except over the fence) will be a mess... so if they go to replay on this kind of call, umpires will be encouraged to call anything close fair.
Makes sense, although I would think that going from foul to fair, MLB will probably make it an automatic ground rule double.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:11am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 158
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyezen View Post
And if it was ruled fair, then what?
Then Terry Collins will tell the catcher to visit the mound to stall for time so that the command center will see it.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Sat Jun 02, 2012, 09:58am
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
Baseball has to be careful. If they do not implement it right, they will cause other controversies. It is one thing to get certain plays right, but so much can happen in baseball if the call is changed. And some of the plays that have been controversial have other implications that I do not think the public even thinks about.

Peace
I agree that MLB will have to be careful and think thoroughly about how certain replay situations will be handled. But it's a foregone conclusion that replay WILL be expanded...all this waxing about how baseball is officiated by humans and that mistakes are "part of the game" and it's been that way forever won't change that fact.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 10:26pm
DG DG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 4,022
Critical "who knocked the ball out of bounds call" in Celtics-Heat game just reviewed with 41 seconds left in game. It took less than a minute to review. No big deal, Heat crowd barely made a sound when the initial call was reversed, Celtics get the ball. Probably saw it on arena monitors where replay was clear. Celtics win by 4. Big call, big correction aided by replay.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 10:41pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 158
Quote:
Originally Posted by DG View Post
Critical "who knocked the ball out of bounds call" in Celtics-Heat game just reviewed with 41 seconds left in game. It took less than a minute to review. No big deal, Heat crowd barely made a sound when the initial call was reversed, Celtics get the ball. Probably saw it on arena monitors where replay was clear. Celtics win by 4. Big call, big correction aided by replay.
There were five hands there. I couldn't tell conclusively who touched it last.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 11:03pm
DG DG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 4,022
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmagan View Post
There were five hands there. I couldn't tell conclusively who touched it last.
Gee whiz, holy mackeral. How you miss make this easy call reversal, as was made?

Last edited by DG; Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 11:13pm.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 11:13pm
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmagan View Post
There were five hands there. I couldn't tell conclusively who touched it last.
That ball was conclusively off the Heat player's hand.
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jun 06, 2012, 05:18pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,280
The game was fine 75, 50 and 25 years ago and it is still fine now. The umpiring and playing have gotten better over time.

Most of this is coming from the media, who have convinced the fans that something just has to be done. IR in football is a joke. Review everything or review nothing. I hate it in the NFL, I hate it in basketball ("Lets go to the monitor to see if the toe was on the three point line" ), and it will be even worse in baseball.

The umpires better tell them to shove it.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Instant Replay? SRW Softball 12 Fri Nov 17, 2006 03:07pm
Instant Replay All_Heart Basketball 0 Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:08am
Instant Replay in the CFL ref18 Football 1 Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:27pm
Instant Replay??? IREFU2 Basketball 4 Mon Mar 14, 2005 04:20pm
Big Ten Instant Replay. JRutledge Football 19 Thu Sep 02, 2004 07:49pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:03pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1