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eyezen Thu Jul 19, 2012 08:29pm

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Originally Posted by tmagan (Post 844471)
You know what will happen in a Beltran situation? The Cardinal's dugout would tell Beltran to step out of the batter's box until the people in the command center would have enough time to see the play.

And if it was ruled fair, then what?

MD Longhorn Fri Jul 20, 2012 08:10am

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Originally Posted by tmagan (Post 844919)
There were five hands there. I couldn't tell conclusively who touched it last.

Then by God you should not be a booth official in any sport. Everyone else could tell.

MD Longhorn Fri Jul 20, 2012 08:11am

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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 849546)
And if it was ruled fair, then what?

Changing fair to foul will not be difficult. Changing foul to fair (except over the fence) will be a mess... so if they go to replay on this kind of call, umpires will be encouraged to call anything close fair.

D Ray Fri Jul 20, 2012 08:45am

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 849563)
Changing fair to foul will not be difficult. Changing foul to fair (except over the fence) will be a mess... so if they go to replay on this kind of call, umpires will be encouraged to call anything close fair.

Agreed. It will make it like high school football is now. Televised football games have replay, so officials are taught to withhold whistles on close plays. With MLB replay they will be encouraged to rule fair, then let the camera sort it out. The rest of us will have to do it the old fashioned way. Make me wonder how this will effect MiLB umpires. Perhaps they will use replay at AAA also, so those on the cusp will get used to how the big boys do it.

Whole lot simpler and cheaper to shun the monitor to make the call in the first place.

Rich Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:18pm

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Originally Posted by SafeOutReplay (Post 850017)
Well met, Hail Fellow!

Baseball officials need to stick their egos up their @ and look only to fair play, correct calls at all costs and embrace replay as the friend of the game it is. :mad:

Oh look, our favorite troll is back. Time to let Brad know.

MD Longhorn Fri Jul 27, 2012 08:14am

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Originally Posted by SafeOutReplay (Post 850017)
Well met, Hail Fellow!

Baseball officials need to stick their egos up their @ and look only to fair play, correct calls at all costs and embrace replay as the friend of the game it is. :mad:

Wow. Didn't even really try to disguise yourself this time around...

APG Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:55am

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Originally Posted by SafeOutReplay (Post 850017)
Well met, Hail Fellow!

Baseball officials need to stick their egos up their @ and look only to fair play, correct calls at all costs and embrace replay as the friend of the game it is. :mad:

If you look at other sports that have more extensive use of replay, there are still plenty of situations where replay can't/isn't used, so no, it's not "correct calls at all costs."

CT1 Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:10am

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Originally Posted by SafeOutReplay (Post 850097)
The fear of being replaced with competent technology is common among officials who have only their egos and not their hearts in the game. :rolleyes:

If the MLB owners really wanted human umpires replaced with techno-bots, they would have already done so. The technology exists, and the money isn't an issue.

They (and the players) are, for now, willing to accept less-than-perfect officiating as part of the tradition and color of the game.

APG Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:17am

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Originally Posted by SafeOutReplay (Post 850097)
If your idea of proper officiating is to allow calls made incorrectly to stand then I would not be surprised. It's a common failing.

The fear of being replaced with competent technology is common among officials who have only their egos and not their hearts in the game. :rolleyes:

What kind of line of thinking is this? Of course the goal in officiating is 100 percent accuracy. I never said otherwise, but apparently, at even the highest levels of all officiating, incorrect calls are expected and allowed to stand, or every single single play would be reviewable.

D Ray Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by SafeOutReplay (Post 850103)
Won't happen. The conversion rate from AAA to MLB is too small to make this extension feasible for the money involved.

Agreed, which makes the whole issue a slippery slope. The MLB guys working under enhanced, ever present replay of the future will have to learn on the job how to call individual plays so that replay CAN correct. The rest of us will keep doing as trained, bust a$$, get to the best spot, make the best (sometimes wrong) call and move on. The whole replay concept sucks, especially in baseball.

Rich Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:54pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 850058)
Wow. Didn't even really try to disguise yourself this time around...

Nope. I've sent Brad a message.

grunewar Fri Jul 27, 2012 04:03pm

Back on Topic - 7/27 Update
 
Selig: MLB will expand instant replay

From the article:

"He, told a radio station in New York on Friday that Major League Baseball will expand replay to include trapped balls and line drives down the foul lines."

tmagan Sat Jul 28, 2012 02:11am

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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 849546)
And if it was ruled fair, then what?

Then Terry Collins will tell the catcher to visit the mound to stall for time so that the command center will see it.

tmagan Sat Jul 28, 2012 02:12am

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 849562)
Then by God you should not be a booth official in any sport. Everyone else could tell.

Instant replay should be used to overturn egregious calls, not 50/50 calls, otherwise we might as well use replay to overturn every call.

tmagan Sat Jul 28, 2012 02:14am

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 849563)
Changing fair to foul will not be difficult. Changing foul to fair (except over the fence) will be a mess... so if they go to replay on this kind of call, umpires will be encouraged to call anything close fair.

Makes sense, although I would think that going from foul to fair, MLB will probably make it an automatic ground rule double.


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