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wish7694 Tue May 22, 2012 10:54pm

Pitcher Injured During Warmups
 
FED rules. New pitcher is warming up between innings (started the game at shortstop). Twists ankle on warm up delivery and cannot continue as pitcher. Is taken out of game. When his turn comes up again on offense coach tries to re-enter him into the game but is told he cannot due to his leaving earlier due to injury. Coach tries to protest but it is not allowed in California High School Playoffs.

I know the rule says a player who comes into the game to pitch and cannot complete his first batter due to injury may not return as a pitcher, is their another rule I am missing that prevents him from returning to the game at all?

umpjim Tue May 22, 2012 11:47pm

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Originally Posted by wish7694 (Post 842954)
FED rules. New pitcher is warming up between innings (started the game at shortstop). Twists ankle on warm up delivery and cannot continue as pitcher. Is taken out of game. When his turn comes up again on offense coach tries to re-enter him into the game but is told he cannot due to his leaving earlier due to injury. Coach tries to protest but it is not allowed in California High School Playoffs.

I know the rule says a player who comes into the game to pitch and cannot complete his first batter due to injury may not return as a pitcher, is their another rule I am missing that prevents him from returning to the game at all?

I can't find one other than 3-1-2 which allows return except as pitcher. You are missing umpires who know the rules.

mbyron Wed May 23, 2012 08:07am

The substitution rules in general do not distinguish players based on position. All starters have re-entry privileges, including the one you describe.

As you say, a pitcher who is removed without facing a batter may return to the game but may not return to pitch. Sounds as if the umpires might have confused this restriction on returning to pitch with the re-entry rules.

ozzy6900 Wed May 23, 2012 11:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by wish7694 (Post 842954)
FED rules. New pitcher is warming up between innings (started the game at shortstop). Twists ankle on warm up delivery and cannot continue as pitcher. Is taken out of game. When his turn comes up again on offense coach tries to re-enter him into the game but is told he cannot due to his leaving earlier due to injury. Coach tries to protest but it is not allowed in California High School Playoffs.

I know the rule says a player who comes into the game to pitch and cannot complete his first batter due to injury may not return as a pitcher, is their another rule I am missing that prevents him from returning to the game at all?

You would think that umpires chosen for Playoff Games would know the rules! You are supposed to put your best out there at this time of the year.

umpjim Wed May 23, 2012 11:44am

Maybe the OP can tell us if California has some state restriction such as LL does where if medical personnel are available their approval is needed for the player to reenter the game?

Rich Ives Wed May 23, 2012 01:07pm

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Originally Posted by umpjim (Post 843031)
Maybe the OP can tell us if California has some state restriction such as LL does where if medical personnel are available their approval is needed for the player to reenter the game?

LL only has that in the tournament.

And it means that if there is a dispute the meds get to decide.

wish7694 Wed May 23, 2012 01:19pm

Only medical restriction in California is for a suspected concussion, which was not the case in this situation.


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