batter accidentally kicks foul ball

[rbmartin]

OBR 6.05(i) Batter is out when....After hitting or bunting a foul ball, he intentionally deflects the course of the ball in any manner while running to first base. The ball is dead and no runners may advance;...

FED 7-4-1(i) Batter is out when ... he intentionally deflects a foul ball which has a chance of becoming fair.

accidentlly = foul ball

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

OBR 6.05(i) Batter is out when....After hitting or bunting a foul ball, he intentionally deflects the course of the ball in any manner while running to first base. The ball is dead and no runners may advance;...

FED 7-4-1(i) Batter is out when ... he intentionally deflects a foul ball which has a chance of becoming fair.

accidentlly = foul ball

I think that we should start thanking members for looking up rules for posters who can't be bothered to even try.

Thank you rbmartin

[David Emerling]

The reason I asked the question has much more to do with the interpretation of "accidentally" and "intentionally". I'm perfectly aware of these rules as written.

I have heard it said that a "kick" (even if running and even if it seems accidental) is always interpreted as "intentional" for the purpose of such rules that require intent.

[rbmartin]

Originally Posted by David Emerling

The reason I asked the question has much more to do with the interpretation of "accidentally" and "intentionally". I'm perfectly aware of these rules as written.

I have heard it said that a "kick" (even if running and even if it seems accidental) is always interpreted as "intentional" for the purpose of such rules that require intent.

I once kicked a chair leg while walking through the kitchen barefooted. It was not intentional. It still hurt though.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by David Emerling

The reason I asked the question has much more to do with the interpretation of "accidentally" and "intentionally". I'm perfectly aware of these rules as written.

I have heard it said that a "kick" (even if running and even if it seems accidental) is always interpreted as "intentional" for the purpose of such rules that require intent.

Right, so you know the rule (I knew you did, by the way) and the rest is your judgement. In your opinion, did the batter "kick" the ball (intentional) or did his foot contact the ball while he was running (he made no odd movement, he just ran and contacted the ball - therefore, unintentional).

[JR12]

This is why some people are afraid to post

[MikeStrybel]

I could have sworn this was an umpire forum where fellow officials could ask questions and kick around thoughts regarding their interps. Around this area, we strive to mentor those who ask. Sometimes we provide rule book answers and other times we simply listen and offer advice. Why is it that some feel compelled to ridicule others for simply asking a question in this forum?

The answer seems pretty straight forward and rb did a great job of hadnling it. Thanks for helping.

[JR12]

On almost every thread on this site, you can find at least 1 post meant to belittle or ridicule someone. Aren't we all on the same team?

[LMan]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

...where fellow officials could ask questions and kick around thoughts...

Intentionally or accidentally?