Tim Welke - missed call
 

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This is inexcusable

Do you think he did it on purpose? If so, he is a cheat. I highly doubt he booted the call on purpose. We are human. We've all missed calls, get over it.

-Josh

Welke obviously didn't adjust for the off throw; otherwise, he would have clearly seen the "way pulled" foot. As I have been told, "Get back to fundamentals..."

Close enough for government work.

That helps to explain why our government is in the shape it is :eek:

Obama wouldn't have missed that call:)

I wonder if Donnie asked him to get help from the plate umpire, who would have clearly seen the pulled foot.

I wonder if Welke would have considered getting help, if asked to.

If I'm asked, I always check with the plate umpire. My goal is to get the play right.

Keep an eye on the news, he may even have a comment about it.

I'm not an advocate of always getting help, or doing whatever it takes to get the call right. If it's a bang-bang judgement call, and got a good look at it, it is what it is.

But if I'm blocked out, or somehow not getting a good look at the play, I've got no trouble asking of help, if the proper procedure is followed.

In this case, I'm pretty sure Welke wasn't asked to get help. And therein lies the problem. You gotta ask the right question, when you're a manager. You always ask the umpire "What did you have on that?", and go from there.

How about getting in position, making a confident call, and telling the coach "I was in position and that's my call."

The coach doesn't want the call right, he wants it to go his way.

But he might appoint a Bad Call czar to oversee the umpires.

Come on Steve, are'nt you busy enough already?

How many "rounds" will he have to buy because of this one?

:)

This is why the 90 degree angle mechanic can be flawed big time.

Peace

He *wasn't* 90 degrees, though. He was considerably more than 90 degrees.

Looks out to me! :p

I do not have a goniometer to know what actual degree he was in relationship to the bag. All I know if he was closer to the line, he would have seen clearly the foot being off the bag. He took his angle away and obviously seem to assume this was routine in nature.

Peace

He looks to be about 45 degrees to me. Had he read the throw and adjusted better he could have gotten into a better position. But I also agree that 2-3 steps fair here would've been a much better angle.

If straight-lined, he would be 180°.

He's 180° to the fielder but not the throw.

never did like geometry:D

Even if you know you're 100% right?

If so, that's not good umpiring.

Always?

If that is the goal, why would you always ask the PU for help? What makes you think they see the game or angle that you do? And even if they see it, certainly does not mean they are right either. And we cannot compare what we do to what they do at the MLB.

And as said, coaches want things their way, they are not looking for what is right or correct based on the actual call.

Peace

I do have a full plate keeping you in line, I must admit!;)

From somebody else..."Read Step"

If he does, he will blame the miss on Bush.

And then would miss a play where the foot was pulled off to the front of the base.

No position is the perfect one for all situations and all positions can be improved by taking a read step when necessary.

We've all missed reasonably close calls. A call missed this bad at the major league level, FIRED TOMORROW !!! INEXCUSABLE !!!

Here is the thing, there are not many plays that take place there that you cannot rule on properly. And even if that is the location of the play, then the PU is not in play either. And if a play takes place on the front side, then you can still see a guy this far off the bag. This was not a close play we are talking about, this was a very bad miss. I agree nothing is going to get them all, but if a play is on the front part of the bag, chances are the runner is affected and you have other things to see as well that will be obvious.

Peace

This may show several things, but not that the 90 degree mechanic is flawed. He was no where near 90 degrees. Had he been, he'd have seen the pulled foot.

Wow.