NHFS Survey
 

I received a survey from NHFS today and I'll bet a lot of you doing HS ball haven't gotten this. They want our input as officials so please take the time and fill it out.

NFHS | NFHS Sport Questionnaires

Regards,
Ozzy

Some good "Would you like to see rules on the following..." sections, too. Maybe, just maybe, they'll drop the immediate dead ball on balks.

Did it yesterday. I wish they had a comments section so we could be qualitative as to why certain rules are good or not good, or so we could suggest having officials being involved on the rules committee.

I strongly agreed with all changes that would bring FED in line with OBR.

Hopefully we're not the only two.

I don't know what changes you are referring to, but most Fed games are played by students that are not that athletically gifted.

I think you could tweak a few rules to see if it makes a difference.

The problem is OBR, or professional baseball, becomes a monkey see, monkey situation with several players.

Me too (number 3)

I'm happy with HS balks exactly the way they are and would be thrilled if NCAA/OBR killed the ball exactly the same. I'll make sure to fill out the questionnaire that way if that's a question.

I'll bite.

You enjoy penalizing the offense for a defensive mistake? What about the OBR/NCAA rule do you not like?

There's at least three.

Four

It's not penalizing anyone. The rule is consistent -- the batter is hitting a dead ball, not a pitch.

I just don't think it's that important. Everyone acts as though OBR is perfect and NFHS is flawed and for half a century all balks in OBR (until the mid-1950s) were immediately dead.

I call HS games, college games, and games under OBR and I just don't see why it's important to bring all the codes in line with each other. I'll simply call what the NFHS and my state tells me to call and not really care one way or the other.

Not athletically gifted? I don't know if you umpired for the Special Olympics or something, but the HS ball out this way is the breeding ground for the pros. I have umpired for a couple dozen players that at least made it to the major league level. Most FED games here feature very skilled athletes. Some of our JV teams are better than many varsity squads in some other areas. Just the way it is.

Did you even fill out the survey? You would know what rules I was talking about if you had.

I wonder if the guy who hits a home run after you call that balk would agree with you.

Not athletically gifted? I don't know if you umpired for the Special Olympics or something, but the HS ball out this way is the breeding ground for the pros. I have umpired for a couple dozen players that at least made it to the major league level. Most FED games here feature very skilled athletes. Some of our JV teams are better than many varsity squads in some other areas. Just the way it is.

It's not that way here. I have had one player get to MLB in 34 years of umpiring.

The SoCal area in general is a hotbed for baseball due to the climate. Baseball is played year-round and is comparable to HS football in the state of Texas. It's a pretty serious deal.

When was the last time you saw a batter hit a home run when a balk was called. I'd say 99.9% of the time, the pitcher never releases the ball.

Eight years of fed ball and I have never even had a guy hit the ball on a balk, well maybe one, and it definitely wasn't a home run!

Fed is like my wife, changes her mind every two seconds! I don't care one way or the other, just make up your fricken mind already!

To be honest I've never umpired the Special Olympics. However, I've been able on occasion to volunteer at track and field days. Had a blast each time.

I don't know how many MLB players I've umpired, but there have been a few. I just don't hang my hat on that nail.

BTW-I've umpired games where there were special needs kids serving in some capacity. They're quite fun to be around, and the teams really love having them there.

I hope you don't slip and use language like Special Olympian, or retard around the games you work.

It is that 0.1% of the time that a player hits a home run (or other manner of getting on base) on a balk call that the rule is written the way it is.

I don't hang my hat on the many players who made the bigs, I just state facts the way they are. Why do you continue to harangue me about every little word I say? I am getting very tired of having to defend my words to you.

And I meant (and said) nothing at all disparaging about special needs children. I never used the word retard either, where did that come from? I was just curious as to if that was the baseball league you worked in, since you seem to think there weren't many talented players playing FED baseball in your area. I find your posts to be greatly exaggerated at times. Please stop assuming you know anything about my life.

Having worked games in SoCal, I can attest to what SDS speaks. The baseball there is beyond anything found anywhere in the world. If it were not for the money, MLB players would move up the skill scale by playing in JV games in San Diego.

Of course, I jest, since they would have expired their eligibility. :p

And generally, baseball doesn't have to compete with that silly game played with nets on sticks. That sport has really hurt baseball in the northeast.

Has Muggle Quidditch grown so astronomically in SoCal? I did not know that!

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That's because at the FED level, umpires have lousy balk timing. I can't count how many times a balk has been called by a partner for F1 failing to stop--only to see a throw to a base follow. Sadder still is the number of coaches who aren't aware that F1 doesn't have to stop when throwing to a base.

Of course, this is northern ball. Southern and western FED play is superior beyond belief to the crap that passes as baseball in the upper midwest.

Pitchers fail to release the pitch after a balk call in the NCAA around these parts approximately half the time. Post-balk batted balls (not necessarily home runs) occur frequently.

May 19, 2011.

I didn't say anything that was contrary to your opinion. I gave you my opinion. You don't have to go off on a tangent.

I'm fine with FED rules.

For the record, it sounded to me like the only ball I'm qualified to work is retards. You even said it again in the post I'm quoting.

Stay classy, San Diego.

I've got something even better. I've been in attendance for two MLB perfect games.

I hope my next big gambit is to win the lottery.

Agree and agree. I've had TWO varsity coaches complain that the opposing pitcher was not stepping off before throwing to 1B for a pickoff. Just sad.

It's not just batted balls but also wild pick off throws or pitches after the balk call. I had a balk the other night in a Pony game when the pitcher blew through his stop and committed to the plate. I called it and he ended up throwing a wild pitch. Nobody realized the ball was still live so the F2 lollygagged in retrieving it and R1 did a slow jog to second. He very likely could've had third.

And therein lies the problem the NFHS has to deal with. There is one San Diego area out of hundred's of thousands of teams in this country that play under Federation HS rules. I don't know what leeway each State association has with the Fed Rules however they should be able to adjust to the needs of the different areas.

Some of those questions though ???.

Size of Black mark on players face?
Triplicate lineups.
Speed Up Rule (which in 99% of the cases slows down the game)
Face Masks Guards
Allowing corporate logos
Use of foul language an ejection.
Clarify an ejection administratively
Time between pitches from 20 -12 ????
Adding verbiage relative to the Federal Anti-Tampering Law to Rule 1

It is amazing how you do not read what is said, or take it in the spirit intended. I asked if you had been umpiring that type of league, not saying a single thing about your qualifications. I have no doubt that you are qualified to work good baseball. Please read and comprehend. It is fundamental.

I am fine working with and enforcing FED rules. Did it for over 20 years, 5 days a week during HS season. That doesn't mean I have to like them, or that I am not allowed to speak up against some of them.

My thought here was "WTF does this have to do with baseball?"

Now that I've had some time to think about it, I remember a statement that tampering with bats can technically be a federal crime.

Oh great another certificationw we will need, enforcement of Federal laws.

Book him Dano!

Sorry son you can't graduate for commiting Fereral offenses???//

We have gone just Fnnnnng Stupid.

But if would like to carry a concealed weapon on the field, thats fine, we can pas a law don't worry about it.

BBCOR bats can be manufactured so that they are "tamper evident," including when they have their end-caps removed, they're rolled, or otherwise manipulated so as to alter their performance.

Manufacturers have so far refused to employ any of these tampering revealing technologies for fear of putting themselves at a competitive disadvantage relative to other manufacturers who do not use them.

If NCAA and FED adopt regulations requiring tamper evident bats, as they are in the process of doing, all manufacturers will have to comply. My guess is about 3-4 years until we see this.

I tore a tag off a mattress one time.

Read him his right Dano, Then Book um.



Mitt who? Umpire?