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SNIPERBBB Mon Apr 09, 2012 07:19pm
Think this is MC?
 
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Rita C Mon Apr 09, 2012 07:52pm
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 836586)
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No, it's assault.

Rita

SanDiegoSteve Mon Apr 09, 2012 09:43pm
Good old Austin O'Such. He should be in jail, but I guess getting suspended from his school and the team for the rest of the school year will do for now.

Dave Reed Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:11pm
Sorry Rita, I can 't resist......

For sure this is not assault, which is the crime of causing someone to fear violence may be done to them. In this instance, one can make a case for battery, which is actual violence.

Rita C Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:36am
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Originally Posted by Dave Reed (Post 836623)
Sorry Rita, I can 't resist......

For sure this is not assault, which is the crime of causing someone to fear violence may be done to them. In this instance, one can make a case for battery, which is actual violence.
Good enough for me.

Just because it was done during a game shouldn't mean anything

Rita

dash_riprock Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:45am
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Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 836627)

Just because it was done during a game shouldn't mean anything
It should mean getting kicked off the team at the very least, and possibly out of school depending on his other contributions to campus life, if any.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:51am
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Originally Posted by dash_riprock (Post 836629)
It should mean getting kicked off the team at the very least, and possibly out of school depending on his other contributions to campus life, if any.
As stated in my post, he was kicked out of both for the rest of the year.

thumpferee Tue Apr 10, 2012 01:48am
I have an out on appeal on R3!

Dave Reed Tue Apr 10, 2012 02:56pm
Steve,
He was kicked off the team, but not out of school. Yavapai did recommend that he leave school, because his personal safety was very much in question, and he did leave.

Examiner.com (not the only source for the above statement.)

SanDiegoSteve Tue Apr 10, 2012 05:23pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Reed (Post 836734)
Steve,
He was kicked off the team, but not out of school. Yavapai did recommend that he leave school, because his personal safety was very much in question, and he did leave.

Examiner.com (not the only source for the above statement.)
I was going by the article in The Daily Courier from 4/7/12:

"The YC player involved was immediately suspended by the college and will be suspended from play for the remainder of the season. The college has implemented this action and will continue to work with the Arizona Community College Athletic Conference (ACCAC) on current and future sanctions following conference procedures."

Yavapai College baseball player suspended for remainder of season - The Prescott Daily Courier - Prescott, Arizona

EsqUmp Tue Apr 10, 2012 07:49pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Reed (Post 836623)
Sorry Rita, I can 't resist......

For sure this is not assault, which is the crime of causing someone to fear violence may be done to them. In this instance, one can make a case for battery, which is actual violence.
You may want to check your state laws. They aren't all the same. Where I come from, that's an assault. Battery doesn't exist in my neck of the woods.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Apr 10, 2012 08:56pm
It is amazing the things we can find to argue about on this forum.

Rich Ives Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Reed (Post 836623)
Sorry Rita, I can 't resist......

For sure this is not assault, which is the crime of causing someone to fear violence may be done to them. In this instance, one can make a case for battery, which is actual violence.
I wish more people understood that.

MrUmpire Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:24pm
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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 836789)
I wish more people understood that.
In several states, assault in the threat, coupled with the ability, to cause bodily harm. Battery is causing bodily harm.

Matt Wed Apr 11, 2012 01:29am
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 836786)
It is amazing the things we can find to argue about on this forum.
I don't think he's arguing so much as just stating. For the record, Minnesota considers either the threat or the act as assault, as well.


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