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David B Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:13pm
next time someone is in 3-man mechanics, watch the pitcher and see exactly how hard it is for him to have his foot go completely past the back side of the rubber. That is really back there.

Might help someone making a judgement about the foot in regards to this rule etc.,

On the OP, no way the BU can see this from B or C.

If a coach complains, tell him to hire 3-men.

Thanks

David

Welpe Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:29pm
That is not the intent of the rule either.

Steven Tyler Tue Mar 20, 2012 06:15pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 833367)
This is the 2nd balk question where one of our brothers called a balk for a free foot landing "behind the rubber". Did someone "change " the rules?

Also, I was admonished in the last post because I stated that ..."it doesn't matter where the free foot lands as long as there is distance and direction...". Seems that this is exactly what everyone here is saying for this post.

Interesting.......
Even more interesting. Define direction. When does it become a step to 1B or 2B. Using your logic, a RH pitcher could whirl to second, and throw to 1B. If a lefty brings his foot up even with the rubber, and then proceeds to step entirely behind the rubber on a throw to 1B, what do you call then?

Steven Tyler Tue Mar 20, 2012 06:18pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by GROUPthink (Post 833375)
It would be pretty hard for that entire foot to come behind the rubber on the step to first base. Couldn't imagine I'd even be looking to pick that nit.
Impractical, but not impossible.

tankmjg24 Tue Mar 20, 2012 09:01pm
Sorry for the numbering guys. I choose the firing squad over being stoned please :D

In regards to my partners explanation on how he called the balk, he stated that he looked at where the foot landed and that in his judgement it landed behind the rubber. Now I had a similar play that I posted on here that involved a right handed pitcher going to third, however his free foot in my judgement crossed behind the rubber before picking to 3rd. In the most recent case where my partner called the balk, he said that his foot did not cross behind before the pick off, but in his judgement that it landed behind the rubber after the pickoff.

Hope all that makes since.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:08pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by tankmjg24 (Post 833448)
Sorry for the numbering guys. I choose the firing squad over being stoned please :D
Sure you weren't already stoned when you wrote it?:p

cbfoulds Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:41pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 833345)
Of course R1 is at third base because NFHS Rules specifically state that B1 is the first batter and if he gets on base he becomes R1, and and downe the lineup we go for each inning. I work only games using NFHS Rules so when I post questions I am going to use NFHS nomenclature. I know that many here look down upon NFHS Rules, but some of us here only work NFHS Rules, and logically it makes sense: R1 on 3B, next two batters make outs, R4 on 1B, and B5 is the Batter.

I will admit that labeling the Umpires U1 for the P and U2, etc. for the Bases is stupid.

MTD, Sr.
Crap, Mark, you know better.
If posting on the NFHS site [does anyone, anymore?], OK, follow their idiotic nomeclature: but everyone else on the planet reads "R1" as "the Runner on 1st"; and except for BOO issues, couldn't [and need not] care less who is "B1" ... "B5".

yawetag Thu Mar 22, 2012 03:25pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbfoulds (Post 833650)
Crap, Mark, you know better.
If posting on the NFHS site [does anyone, anymore?]
They switched to having the forum on Arbiter. I haven't been back since.


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