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lawref Sun Jun 01, 2003 11:03pm

Does little league (junior/senior league) have a courtesy runner rule?

soonerfan Mon Jun 02, 2003 02:20am

depends on your league's specifics. most of the time it's the pitcher and catcher. where some get sticky is the catcher may be ran for only once there is 2 outs. also, some allow that the last batted out run, others say it must be an available, non participating sub. plus, one courtesy runner per runner, please. i.e., carl lewis can't run for both david wells and ron karkovice in the same game. hope this makes sense...enjoy!

mick Mon Jun 02, 2003 06:04am

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Originally posted by soonerfan
depends on your league's specifics. most of the time it's the pitcher and catcher. where some get sticky is the catcher may be ran for only once there is 2 outs. also, some allow that the last batted out run, others say it must be an available, non participating sub. plus, one courtesy runner per runner, please. i.e., carl lewis can't run for both david wells and ron karkovice in the same game. hope this makes sense...enjoy!
Sounds like a very strange rule.
Is there a reference for your explanation?
mick

Rich Ives Mon Jun 02, 2003 09:13am

Little League does NOT have a "courtesy runner" rule per-se as you may be used to in HS.

Little League's rule is:

<i>RULE 7.14
Once each inning a <b>player who has not appeared in the batting order</b> may be used as a special pinch-runner for any offensive player. The player for whom the pinchrunner runs is not subject to removal from the lineup. If the pinch runner remains in the game as a substitute offensive player or batter, the player may not be used again as a pinch-runner.</i>

It's called a Special Pinch Runner (SPR) in LL. It can only be used once per inning. It can only be a player who has not yet been in the lineup (This means if Billy started and was removed for a sub he cannot be a SPR). The runner may run for anyone. You must anounce him as a SPR, otherwise he is considered an ordinary substitute.

Hope this helps.

chris s Mon Jun 02, 2003 09:27am

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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by soonerfan
depends on your league's specifics. most of the time it's the pitcher and catcher. where some get sticky is the catcher may be ran for only once there is 2 outs. also, some allow that the last batted out run, others say it must be an available, non participating sub. plus, one courtesy runner per runner, please. i.e., carl lewis can't run for both david wells and ron karkovice in the same game. hope this makes sense...enjoy!
Sounds like a very strange rule.
Is there a reference for your explanation?
mick

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Mick, we got a local "speed-up" rule. Cortesy runner for F2 or F1 with 2 outs. If we have a continuous batting order, it is the player who was last out, if normal baseball, sub who is not in game.....NOT considered substitution. Works for me...F1 and F2 can get out there and toss the "five and down"

mick Mon Jun 02, 2003 10:19am

Aha!
 
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Mick, we got a local "speed-up" rule. Cortesy runner for F2 or F1 with 2 outs. If we have a continuous batting order, it is the player who was last out, if normal baseball, sub who is not in game.....NOT considered substitution. Works for me...F1 and F2 can get out there and toss the "five and down"

chris s,
Local rules can be used pretty much the same as ground rules are used from field-to-field; though I have used 'em, I am real comfortable <u>not using</u> them.
Sounds like maybe soonerfan works the same league. ;)
mick

chris s Mon Jun 02, 2003 01:56pm

Soonerfan....
 
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Mick, we got a local "speed-up" rule. Cortesy runner for F2 or F1 with 2 outs. If we have a continuous batting order, it is the player who was last out, if normal baseball, sub who is not in game.....NOT considered substitution. Works for me...F1 and F2 can get out there and toss the "five and down"

chris s,
Local rules can be used pretty much the same as ground rules are used from field-to-field; though I have used 'em, I am real comfortable <u>not using</u> them.
Sounds like maybe soonerfan works the same league. ;)
mick

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Not in ca.!!!!

mick Mon Jun 02, 2003 02:13pm

Re: Soonerfan.... Oh right....
 
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Originally posted by chris s

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Mick, we got a local "speed-up" rule. Cortesy runner for F2 or F1 with 2 outs. If we have a continuous batting order, it is the player who was last out, if normal baseball, sub who is not in game.....NOT considered substitution. Works for me...F1 and F2 can get out there and toss the "five and down"

chris s,
Local rules can be used pretty much the same as ground rules are used from field-to-field; though I have used 'em, I am real comfortable <u>not using</u> them.
Sounds like maybe soonerfan works the same league. ;)
mick

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Not in ca.!!!!

...Like there aren't any Spartan fans in California. :)

IHSAIllini Mon Jun 02, 2003 08:13pm

We use a 'speed-up rule' in our house leagues around here, as well as for travel. The only place I could umpire and don't know whether we use the speed rule is in IHSA games...guess I'll find out next spring.

soonerfan Mon Jun 02, 2003 11:00pm

i never mentioned "rule" anywhere. those are based off the places that i have been and how they want things done. i am all for not waiting on someone between innings. especially in the summers of OK.


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