Slide/No Slide
We had a play in our FED game where the PU called a double play due to interference on the runner going to second base. Initially PU stated, "Batter is out! Runner did not slide at second base!" The opposing coach questioned the call and asked if he was saying that the runner must slide. At this point, PU said, "He has to either slide or vacate." The coach then asked if there was contact on the play and PU said, "No, but shortstop changed his throw because of the runner.
Is this the correct interpretation? |
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8-4-2b includes within interference the concept that the runner "illegally alters the actions of a fielder in the immediate act of making a play." So if the umpire meant that the alteration in the fielder's play was the result of the runner's action, then yes the interpretation is correct.
To judge whether the rule was correctly applied by the umpire in this case, I would have to see the play or have a more complete description. |
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MTD, Sr. |
I am a bit messed up with this one too. If the runner is NOT required to slide and he is running in the baseline how does this qualify as interference. The rule states he must "illegally alters the actions of a fielder in the immediate act of making a play." I agree that his action altered the play, but he is not required to slide and he was within the baseline, so why is that considered illegally altering the play. My understanding was that a runner had to intentionally interfere with a throw for their to be interference.
I am new here, so don't beat me up too bad. Jim |
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It's also worth remembering that on a force play the slide must be directly into the base, which is one place the fielder usually isn't. If the fielder does happen to be there during a legal slide, then the contact is legal, as dash points out. |
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Note that this play has generated much discussion since the dawn of the internet. FED hasn't really clarified it. They have one case where the runner is "less than half way" to second when hit by the throw -- that's legal. My take is that if he's close enough to slide, then he must slide (or run away) or be liable for interference. |
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Thank you everyone for your insights, they are very helpful.
Jim |
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I hear umpires locally say, "You can't take out the fielder" or "You can't break up two." I cringe when I hear that -- of *course* you can take out the pivot man -- if the slide is legal (which means straight to the base and all the other stuff) and the fielder is in the "wrong" spot then contact can be quite severe and still legal. |
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It's kind of the same point you were making to me -- if there's no interference, there's no out. |
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