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JJ Mon Jun 13, 2011 02:38pm

Any chance someone can post the video?

JJ

GA Umpire Mon Jun 13, 2011 02:45pm

YouTube - ‪NCAA Bat int. June 12‬‏

umpjim Mon Jun 13, 2011 02:46pm

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Posted on YouTube off someone's TV screen.

zm1283 Mon Jun 13, 2011 03:27pm

Don't see interference from what the video shows.

umpjim Mon Jun 13, 2011 03:35pm

Box score shows Wilson out on BI with a (3-2 KBFBB) count. They show no BB for him.
http://http://www.texassports.com/sp....html#GAME.PLY

jicecone Mon Jun 13, 2011 03:59pm

Inter what? That wasn't close. Neither was the attempt.

PU had to have a brain freeze about ball four. BR even hesitates until catcher releases ball. Of course F2 also had a brain freeze. He is allowed to throw to second but I certainly wouldn't be calling interference on this unless BR went out of his way to interfer.

And the announcers, well you have to have a brain before it can become frozen on you.

MD Longhorn Mon Jun 13, 2011 04:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jicecone (Post 765348)
Inter what? That wasn't close. Neither was the attempt.

PU had to have a brain freeze about ball four. BR even hesitates until catcher releases ball. Of course F2 also had a brain freeze. He is allowed to throw to second but I certainly wouldn't be calling interference on this unless BR went out of his way to interfer.

And the announcers, well you have to have a brain before it can become frozen on you.

I'm not convinced from the video we've seen that I would call this INT either - but we should also remember that PU has the opposite angle we do, and was closer.

How did F2 have a brain freeze - on a 3-2 count and a steal (AND a check swing), you aren't going to wait for the call or the appeal on the swing to throw the ball - you're going to throw it down first.

umpjim Mon Jun 13, 2011 05:34pm

If it was ball 4 he was no longer a batter so how do they get BI?

umpjim Tue Jun 14, 2011 08:28pm

What happened to ball 4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by umpjim (Post 765344)
Box score shows Wilson out on BI with a (3-2 KBFBB) count. They show no BB for him.
http://http://www.texassports.com/sp....html#GAME.PLY

Not up to speed on scoring but perusing a better link to this game's scoring I see that any other player's BB had 4 B's in the player's at bat recap:

Arizona St. vs Texas - Baseball Division I - June 12, 2011 - NCAA.com

Wilson's at bat does not. Was he in limbo until ump said ball 4 and thus he was a batter and not a BR and thus called out for BI? Did the pitcher not walk him? What did they do with that pitch?

txump81 Wed Jun 15, 2011 06:43am

PU came up with BI by pointing towards the BR with his left hand and a fist on the right. He then realized it was ball 4 and seemed to reverse his call. Then Garriso came out to argue and the umpires got together and 4 had a brain freeze. F4 mishandled a mediocre throw to 1B. He took his eyes off the ball and was thinking about the tag. If I was ASU coach, I might have said the magic "P" word.

From what I saw, the BR didn't cross in front of F2 until F2's arm was back by his side. Don't see how that is INT.

UmpTTS43 Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:52am

Its good to know that none of you will ever miss a call like this. Learn from it,apply it to your game and get better.

umpjim Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:42am

Has anybody officially said it was a missed call? The scorebook doesn't give Wison a BB. He gets BI after B3.

Adam Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43 (Post 765785)
Its good to know that none of you will ever miss a call like this. Learn from it,apply it to your game and get better.

Where do you get this impression? Who said as much? Who has said the umpire shouldn't be working that level? Can't plays get discussed here so others can learn as well?

tcarilli Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by txump81 (Post 765746)
If I was ASU coach, I might have said the magic "P" word.

OK, you are Tim Esmay. I am Scott Cline. "Tim what exactly is it that you are protesting?" That is, tell us exactly which rule you think is being misapplied here. Remember you can not protest a judgment call.

MD Longhorn Wed Jun 15, 2011 01:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43 (Post 765785)
Its good to know that none of you will ever miss a call like this. Learn from it,apply it to your game and get better.

Condescend much?


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