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njdevs00cup Fri May 13, 2011 06:50pm

NHFS 2nd Visit in an Inning
 
Does the pitcher need to come out of the game if the coach visits the mound for the second time in one inning, to talk to the same pitcher? Thank you!

UmpJM Fri May 13, 2011 07:23pm

njdevs00cup,

No.

JM

njdevs00cup Fri May 13, 2011 08:11pm

PU insisted this was a speed up rule from a few years back. Couldn't find anything in the rule book and case book.

johnnyg08 Fri May 13, 2011 08:15pm

PU is making up speed-up rules.

It might be true in NCAA though.

UmpJM Fri May 13, 2011 08:24pm

njdevs,

As johnnyg suggests, PU was making stuff up.

Under FED rules, each team is allowed three "defensive charged conferences" during a game.

Each time the manager requests time to have a private conference with his pitcher and does not remove the pitcher, one charged conference is used up. (If he makes a pitching change, the conference is not "charged".)

After the 3rd charged conference, any time the manager requests time to visit the pitcher, he MUST change pitchers.

If he hasn't used any charged conferences in the game, he could visit the same pitcher 3 times in the same inning and the pitcher would be allowed to continue.

NCAA uses a kind of "hybrid" of the OBR and FED rules. Two trips in the same inning to the same pitcher requires the pitcher's removal; after three visits during the game without the removal of the pitcher, each subsequent visit requires a pitcher change.

JM

njdevs00cup Fri May 13, 2011 08:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 758397)
njdevs,

As johnnyg suggests, PU was making stuff up.

Under FED rules, each team is allowed three "defensive charged conferences" during a game.

Each time the manager requests time to have a private conference with his pitcher and does not remove the pitcher, one charged conference is used up. (If he makes a pitching change, the conference is not "charged".)

After the 3rd charged conference, any time the manager requests time to visit the pitcher, he MUST change pitchers.

If he hasn't used any charged conferences in the game, he could visit the same pitcher 3 times in the same inning and the pitcher would be allowed to continue.

NCAA uses a kind of "hybrid" of the OBR and FED rules. Two trips in the same inning to the same pitcher requires the pitcher's removal; after three visits during the game without the removal of the pitcher, each subsequent visit requires a pitcher change.

JM

JM,

Thank you for noting the NCAA rule. The umpire I was working varsity high school baseball with today works NCAA softball, as well. We agreed to disagree after the game.

yawetag Fri May 13, 2011 11:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by njdevs00cup (Post 758381)
Does the pitcher need to come out of the game if the coach visits the mound for the second time in one inning, to talk to the same pitcher? Thank you!

My first thought: Yes, if the first visit was the coach's third charged conference.

Others gave you a more-detailed answer, though.


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